Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 18:43:54 -0400
From: MICHAEL PURDY
To: CRAIG STRUTT
Subject: RE: Windows 10
Newsgroups: win.server.program
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If it is third party PHP application then I would presume the author would
have a v5 offering unless its abandon-ware. If its your own application
then it maybe worth considering porting it to WCX/wcODBC.

Before reporting it to HS I would start each of the Wildcat programs
manually (in dependency order) and verify that if you do NOT use wcStart
things run correctly.  

Normally wcStart only misbehaves if there is a problem with the "Wait for
Up Signal" property associated with one of the applications.  For example
the wcMail signal Wildcat.MailUpEvent 

I would verify the signal syntax for each of the main applications e.g.

Wildcat.MailUpEvent
Wildcat.OnlineUpEvent
Wildcat.ListServeUpEvent
Wildcat.SmtpUpEvent.Router
Wildcat.SmtpUpEvent.Sender
Wildcat.SmtpUpEvent.Receiver
Wildcat.NntpUpEvent

If there is a signal issue wcstart with continue to run waiting for the
signal and that will then cause issues with the startup of other lower
level applications.

I would recommend you install SysInternals 

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb842062

Run 

DBGVIEW.EXE 

Debug Viewer and then run wcStart.exe and you will see what is happening in
the background at startup.



On 8/14/2015 10:28 AM, CRAIG STRUTT wrote to MICHAEL PURDY:

-> Thanks for you help.   Yes, my issues are directly related to depreciated 
-> commands (mysql_connect).   I'm working through those.    
-> 
-> I still have two strange issues which I'll have to touch base with Hector 
-> on.   When the system powers up, WCMail takes up nearly 100% of the 
-> processor power and WcStart continues to run in the background.   Although 
-> restarting WcMail takes care of it, I've also found (strangely enough) that 
-> setting it's affinity to 2 CPUs (running a quad core) immediately stops the 
-> high CPU usage (drops to 0) and then I can put it back on all cores and it 
-> runs fine.   I've left WcStart running this time (normally I force it to 
-> stop) and I'm watching it slowly reduce it's memory footprint.   I want to 
-> see if it stops on it's own eventually (a settings issue) or if it keeps 
-> running.   Right now, it's taking 25% of the CPU cycles.
-> 
-> On 8/13/2015 6:29 PM, MICHAEL PURDY wrote to CRAIG STRUTT:
-> 
-> -> Changes to the PHP.INI file are dynamic and do not require any
-> -> shutdown/restart with Wildcat!. 
-> -> 
-> -> If you are using another web server then a restart maybe required.
-> -> 
-> -> Assuming you can connect successfully to MySQL using the CLI mysql 
-> command
-> -> tool or a GUI tool like SQLyog https://github.com/webyog/sqlyog-community
-> -> then you need to go through the PHP specific troubleshooting process.
-> -> 
-> -> 
-> -> 
-> -> On 8/13/2015 6:07 PM, CRAIG STRUTT wrote to MICHAEL PURDY:
-> -> 
-> -> -> Thanks Mike.  I'm *trying* to do just that.   Thus far, the shutting 
-> -> -> down, and starting up again of the server just to change a setting in 
-> -> -> PHP.INI is an issue.   
-> -> -> 
-> -> -> I still don't have the auto shutdown routines working correctly, and 
-> -> -> the auto startup works on reboot, but not when the machine is already 
-> -> -> running (can't figure that one out!)  WcStart.exe -run works fine in 
-> -> -> the scheduler with an ON logon high privilage, but not after the 
-> -> -> machine is running.    I WILL get this.
-> -> -> 
-> -> -> On 8/13/2015 6:11 AM, MICHAEL PURDY wrote to CRAIG STRUTT:
-> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> If you check the unsupported branches list
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> http://php.net/eol.php
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> You will note the 3.x and 4.x has been End of Life for many years.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> The expectation when running MySQL 5.x is that you will have 
-> -> -> migrated to
-> -> -> -> PHP 5.x.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> There are differences in the Extensions:
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> extension=php_mysql.dll
-> -> -> -> extension=php_mysqli.dll 
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> used in PHP 3.x, 4.x and 5.x.  They are not compatible.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> I suggest in your PHP.INI you temporarily set
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> error_reporting = E_ALL
-> -> -> -> display_errors = on
-> -> -> -> display_startup_errors = on
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> Which when a script is called will show any Startup errors such as 
-> -> -> DLLs
-> -> -> -> failing to load.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> You could of course set the logging to file should you prefer.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> error_log = \php\phperror.log
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> A simple test script such as
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> ->  -> -> ->   phpinfo();
-> -> -> -> ?>
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> Run at the CLI against PHP.EXE e.g.
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> php test.php > debug.txt
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> Would send all of the information necessary for debugging to a
text 
-> -> -> file
-> -> -> -> called DEBUG.TXT
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> On 8/12/2015 3:12 PM, CRAIG STRUTT wrote to JERRY SEHL:
-> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> I'm up and running on Windows 10 64bit (upgrading from XP so a 
-> -> -> BIG jump).   
-> -> -> -> -> The only problem I am having relates to my MySQL and PHP
setup.  
-> -> -> -> Admittedly 
-> -> -> -> -> it's my fault since I was running PHP 4.3 and MySql 3.4.    I 
-> -> -> can't seem to 
-> -> -> -> -> get the older PHP to work with a newer (had to reinstall)
MySql.   
-> -> -> I 
-> -> -> -> -> remember the configuration was a bear in the beginning.   For 
-> -> -> that reason, 
-> -> -> -> -> since it worked, I didn't touch it.  Now I'm going to have to 
-> -> -> spend hours 
-> -> -> -> -> reading and reconfiguring to get it all back and running as it 
-> -> -> should be.
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> Not Winserver's problem.  Not Windows 10 problem.  If there
is a 
-> -> -> "best" 
-> -> -> -> -> place to start, feel free to point me in that direction 
-> -> -> (anyone...)
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> On 7/31/2015 3:50 PM, JERRY SEHL wrote to all:
-> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> I installed after a long download, it took a while a a bunch 
-> -> -> of restarts 
-> -> -> -> -> -> until it was ready, however in starting it up with my 
-> -> -> winserver all 
-> -> -> -> -> seemed 
-> -> -> -> -> -> well when I received messages and sent some, but in checking 
-> -> -> my own 
-> -> -> -> -> -> websites found they didn't exist.
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> I made an appointment for a call from MS and waited till
5 pm 
-> -> -> the next 
-> -> -> -> -> day 
-> -> -> -> -> -> and viola a phone call but was quickly handed over to
another 
-> -> -> then 
-> -> -> -> -> another 
-> -> -> -> -> -> where I was on hold for 1 1/2 hours. The service tech
advisor 
-> -> -> quickly 
-> -> -> -> -> told 
-> -> -> -> -> -> me he didn't understand as it wasn't a Microsoft product etc 
-> -> -> etc.
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> A feature to roll back to Windows 7 is built in good for 30 
-> -> -> days after 
-> -> -> -> -> the 
-> -> -> -> -> -> upgrade, I used it and all is back well again.
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
-> -> -> -> -> -> But did find that 32 bit support exists!
-> -> -> -> -> -> 
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