Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 10:19:59 -0400
From: DAVE GOURD
To: HECTOR SANTOS
Subject: RE: Changes to lists?
Newsgroups: win.server.program
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That's what I was going to do for interim solution. 

Don't know what's up with the situation - it's all been AK for a few years, 
then recent;y things changed for some reason or other.

I've been going thru things a little bit at a time for couple weeks now; 
lawn care season kicked in full time now so am busy as a one-armed 
wallpaper hanger, and thanx to Murphy, when I had the time a month and more 
back, I didn't have this problem. 

Anyway, I'll go and relax the rule for now, going to have to go brush back 
up on things. I think it's something @ Comcast - lots of things changed a 
year ago when I moved over from AT&T, much of it not right for my money - 
they won't left me do things like I could with AT&T.

... off to dns changes.

Thank You.

--
Dave
Chicago

On 5/15/2014 1:15 PM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD:

-> Dave, until you figure out the proper IP setup for SPF, for now, I 
-> recommend to relax your SPF policy using a ~ALL (SoftFail) or ?ALL 
-> (Unknown) policy.  By using the -ALL HardFail policy, it causes the 
email 
-> to be rejected if the IP rules are not correct.   For now, change it.  
We 
-> can look over the setup again to see what SPF rule will cover a hardfail 
-> reliably.
-> 
-> On 5/3/2014 9:45 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to HECTOR SANTOS:
-> 
-> > Thanks for the reply Hector.
-> > 
-> > This is going to drive me nuts - I used to be able to communicate via 
the 
-> > lists before (up until a few weeks ago). Then hotmail started flagging 
-> mail 
-> > from (foxriver.net rpd) as 'suspcious' or whatever. Then last week I 
-> > started getting bounced by the WINS lists. I did make changes to the 
spf 
-> > because that's what hotmail told me was wrong- worked ok for years 
now, 
-> > don't know exactly why it changed. So I evidently goofed something up.
-> > 
-> > Need a refresher for networking and spf now, ain't had to deal with it 
-> for 
-> > so long I forgot how.
-> > 
-> > Messages sent to the lists are sent while logged into my system 
-> > foxriver.net [x.x.x.73] (via web login, not external mail apps), same 
as 
-> I 
-> > do with all mail I send from here.
-> > 
-> > When I am logged into my system, isn't the mail supposed to be sent 
from 
-> > that domain/IP? I know it is different IP when I use Outlook or t-bird 
-> > stand-alone as it should. 
-> > 
-> > 1 domain (foxriver.net) is at networksol, others are at godaddy. DNS 
for 
-> > FRN is w/netsol, where I change the spf netsol. Cannot remember which 
-> site, 
-> > but one spf check mentioned not valid txt file because of non-
-> authoritative 
-> > reasons or something to that effect. I never had a problem before.
-> > 
-> > 
-> > Setup here:
-> > -----------
-> > comcast -> comcast router, WAN x.x.x.78/29, LAN 10.1.x.x
-> >  (whois foxriver.net = x.x.x.72-x.x.x.79 (x.73-x.77 available to me)
-> > comcast router -> x.73 wc server- FRN and 6 sub-domains to same IP)
-> > comcast router -> x.76 (LAN1 router, 192.168.2x.x), wifi & misc boxes
-> > comcast router -> x.77 (LAN2 router, 192.168.0.x), wc server and 4 
boxes 
-> > 
-> > I use WAN IP's for LAN routers cause that's how I did it for 10+yrs on 
-> > AT&T, was plug and play setup just changed public IP's; future plans 
are 
-> to 
-> > use 2 separate Linux boxes for 2 of the sub-domains and drop 1 of the 
-> > private routers.
-> > 
-> > For present, I want to run all 7 domains, mail, lists, etc, on same IP 
-> with 
-> > foxriver.net (FRN) as default.
-> > 
-> > Is Comcast doing something in their dns to cause this, did netsol 
change 
-> > something at dns servers, or (likely) am I just getting old and slow?
-> > 
-> > Any bread crumbs? 
-> > 
-> > --
-> > Dave
-> > Chicago
-> > 
-> > On 5/2/2014 10:21 AM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD:
-> > 
-> > -> Hi Dave,  It appears that the SPF rejection is based on your SPF 
-> record 
-> > for 
-> > -> foxriver.net is based on the IP shown:
-> > -> 
-> > ->  v=spf1 a mx ptr ip4:50.196.212.73 mx:foxriver.net -all
-> > -> 
-> > -> But your mail SMTP client connected using ip 50.196.212.77.  
-> > -> 
-> > -> Making the SPF record correction will resolve this. Don't forget to 
-> make 
-> > -> sure the foxriver.net IP (A record) matches too.  You also may wish 
to 
-> > -> remove the spf "ptr" rule unless you add a matching PTR record too.
-> > -> 
-> > -> --
-> > -> HLS
-> > -> 
-> > -> On 4/30/2014 9:21 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to all:
-> > -> 
-> > -> > Have tried to send 3 msgs to the lists here - they are not being 
-> > -> delivered.
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > Did something change in the past week or 2 that I missed???
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > My system put the list addys in badrcpt.txt file:
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > winserver@winserver.com ts=20140430074507
-> > -> > list-antispam@winserver.com ts=20140430080742
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > --
-> > -> > Dave
-> > -> > Chicago
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > from sendtrace logs:
-> > -> > 
-> > -> 
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > -> > SMTP log started at Tue, 29 Apr 2014  09:19:39
-> > -> > Connection Time: 20140429 09:19:39  cid: 00000000 tid: 05C8
-> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\45233W
-> > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com
-> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > -> > 09:19:39 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 
ready
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > -> > **********************
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
-> > PROPRIETARY 
-> > -> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> > -> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > -> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM 
-> WILL 
-> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.    
                  
-> > -> > *
-> > -> > 09:19:39 S: 220 
-> > -> > 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > -> > 09:19:39 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself 
-> foxriver.net?
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-ETRN
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 
SHA-1
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250-HELP
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > -> > 09:19:40 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 250 ... Sender validation 
-> > pending. 
-> > -> > Continue.
-> > -> > 09:19:40 C: RCPT TO:
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > -> > 09:19:40 C: QUIT
-> > -> > 09:19:40 S: 221 closing connection
-> > -> > 09:19:40 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1515 msecs
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > 
-> > -> 
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014  07:45:05
-> > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 07:45:05  cid: 00000000 tid: 0928
-> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38205W
-> > -> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com
-> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > -> > 07:45:06 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 
ready
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > -> > **********************
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
-> > PROPRIETARY 
-> > -> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> > -> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > -> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM 
-> WILL 
-> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.    
                  
-> > -> > *
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 220 
-> > -> > 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > -> > 07:45:06 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself 
-> foxriver.net?
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-ETRN
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 
SHA-1
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250-HELP
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > -> > 07:45:06 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > -> > 07:45:06 S: 250 ... Sender validation 
-> > pending. 
-> > -> > Continue.
-> > -> > 07:45:06 C: RCPT TO:
-> > -> > 07:45:07 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > -> > 07:45:07 C: QUIT
-> > -> > 07:45:07 S: 221 closing connection
-> > -> > 07:45:07 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1438 msecs
-> > -> > 
-> > -> > 
-> > -> 
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > -> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > -> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014  08:07:40
-> > -> > Connection Time: 20140430 08:07:40  cid: 00000000 tid: 0498
-> > -> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > -> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38206W
-> > -> > Destination: list-antispam@winserver.com
-> > -> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > -> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > -> > 08:07:41 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > -> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 
ready
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > -> > **********************
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
-> > PROPRIETARY 
-> > -> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> > -> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > -> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM 
-> WILL 
-> > -> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.    
                  
-> > -> > *
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 220 
-> > -> > 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > -> > 08:07:41 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > -> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself 
-> foxriver.net?
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-ETRN
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 
SHA-1
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250-HELP
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > -> > 08:07:41 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > -> > 08:07:41 S: 250 ... Sender 
validation 
-> > -> pending. 
-> > -> > Continue.
-> > -> > 08:07:41 C: RCPT TO:
-> > -> > 08:07:42 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > -> > 08:07:42 C: QUIT
-> > -> > 08:07:42 S: 221 closing connection
-> > -> > 08:07:42 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1422 msecs
-> > -> >   
-> >  
->  
 
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