Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 09:45:18 -0400
From: DAVE GOURD
To: HECTOR SANTOS
Subject: RE: Changes to lists?
Newsgroups: win.server.program
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Thanks for the reply Hector.

This is going to drive me nuts - I used to be able to communicate via the 
lists before (up until a few weeks ago). Then hotmail started flagging mail 
from (foxriver.net rpd) as 'suspcious' or whatever. Then last week I 
started getting bounced by the WINS lists. I did make changes to the spf 
because that's what hotmail told me was wrong- worked ok for years now, 
don't know exactly why it changed. So I evidently goofed something up.

Need a refresher for networking and spf now, ain't had to deal with it for 
so long I forgot how.

Messages sent to the lists are sent while logged into my system 
foxriver.net [x.x.x.73] (via web login, not external mail apps), same as I 
do with all mail I send from here.

When I am logged into my system, isn't the mail supposed to be sent from 
that domain/IP? I know it is different IP when I use Outlook or t-bird 
stand-alone as it should. 

1 domain (foxriver.net) is at networksol, others are at godaddy. DNS for 
FRN is w/netsol, where I change the spf netsol. Cannot remember which site, 
but one spf check mentioned not valid txt file because of non-authoritative 
reasons or something to that effect. I never had a problem before.


Setup here:
-----------
comcast -> comcast router, WAN x.x.x.78/29, LAN 10.1.x.x
 (whois foxriver.net = x.x.x.72-x.x.x.79 (x.73-x.77 available to me)
comcast router -> x.73 wc server- FRN and 6 sub-domains to same IP)
comcast router -> x.76 (LAN1 router, 192.168.2x.x), wifi & misc boxes
comcast router -> x.77 (LAN2 router, 192.168.0.x), wc server and 4 boxes 

I use WAN IP's for LAN routers cause that's how I did it for 10+yrs on 
AT&T, was plug and play setup just changed public IP's; future plans are to 
use 2 separate Linux boxes for 2 of the sub-domains and drop 1 of the 
private routers.

For present, I want to run all 7 domains, mail, lists, etc, on same IP with 
foxriver.net (FRN) as default.

Is Comcast doing something in their dns to cause this, did netsol change 
something at dns servers, or (likely) am I just getting old and slow?

Any bread crumbs? 

--
Dave
Chicago

On 5/2/2014 10:21 AM, HECTOR SANTOS wrote to DAVE GOURD:

-> Hi Dave,  It appears that the SPF rejection is based on your SPF record 
for 
-> foxriver.net is based on the IP shown:
-> 
->  v=spf1 a mx ptr ip4:50.196.212.73 mx:foxriver.net -all
-> 
-> But your mail SMTP client connected using ip 50.196.212.77.  
-> 
-> Making the SPF record correction will resolve this. Don't forget to make 
-> sure the foxriver.net IP (A record) matches too.  You also may wish to 
-> remove the spf "ptr" rule unless you add a matching PTR record too.
-> 
-> --
-> HLS
-> 
-> On 4/30/2014 9:21 AM, DAVE GOURD wrote to all:
-> 
-> > Have tried to send 3 msgs to the lists here - they are not being 
-> delivered.
-> > 
-> > Did something change in the past week or 2 that I missed???
-> > 
-> > My system put the list addys in badrcpt.txt file:
-> > 
-> > winserver@winserver.com ts=20140430074507
-> > list-antispam@winserver.com ts=20140430080742
-> > 
-> > --
-> > Dave
-> > Chicago
-> > 
-> > 
-> > from sendtrace logs:
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > SMTP log started at Tue, 29 Apr 2014  09:19:39
-> > Connection Time: 20140429 09:19:39  cid: 00000000 tid: 05C8
-> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\45233W
-> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com
-> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > 09:19:39 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > **********************
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
PROPRIETARY 
-> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL 
-> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.         
             
-> > *
-> > 09:19:39 S: 220 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > 09:19:39 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net?
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-ETRN
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250-HELP
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > 09:19:40 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > 09:19:40 S: 250 ... Sender validation 
pending. 
-> > Continue.
-> > 09:19:40 C: RCPT TO:
-> > 09:19:40 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > 09:19:40 C: QUIT
-> > 09:19:40 S: 221 closing connection
-> > 09:19:40 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1515 msecs
-> > 
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014  07:45:05
-> > Connection Time: 20140430 07:45:05  cid: 00000000 tid: 0928
-> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38205W
-> > Destination: winserver@winserver.com
-> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > 07:45:06 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > **********************
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
PROPRIETARY 
-> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL 
-> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.         
             
-> > *
-> > 07:45:06 S: 220 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > 07:45:06 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net?
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-ETRN
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250-HELP
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > 07:45:06 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > 07:45:06 S: 250 ... Sender validation 
pending. 
-> > Continue.
-> > 07:45:06 C: RCPT TO:
-> > 07:45:07 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > 07:45:07 C: QUIT
-> > 07:45:07 S: 221 closing connection
-> > 07:45:07 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1438 msecs
-> > 
-> > 
-> 
**************************************************************************
-> > Wildcat! ESMTP Server v6.4.454.2
-> > SMTP log started at Wed, 30 Apr 2014  08:07:40
-> > Connection Time: 20140430 08:07:40  cid: 00000000 tid: 0498
-> > SSL Enabled: NO
-> > Message Queue: e:\wc5\gateway\frn\smtp\38206W
-> > Destination: list-antispam@winserver.com
-> > Mail Host IP: 208.247.131.9:25 (mail.winserver.com)
-> > Attempt #1 LastAttempt: n/a 
-> > 08:07:41 ** Opening Connection to host: mail.winserver.com ip: 
-> > 208.247.131.9:25
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-winserver.com Wildcat! ESMTP Server v7.0.454.4 ready
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-************** WARNING:  FOR AUTHORIZED USE ONLY! 
-> > **********************
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* THIS SYSTEM DO NOT AUTHORIZE THE USE OF ITS 
PROPRIETARY 
-> > COMPUTERS    *
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* AND COMPUTER NETWORKS TO ACCEPT, TRANSMIT, OR 
-> DISTRIBUTE 
-> > UNSOLICITED *
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* BULK E-MAIL SENT FROM THE INTERNET. THIS SYSTEM WILL 
-> > RESTRICT ACCESS *
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220-* TO CAN-SPAM (US S. 877) COMPLIANT CLIENTS ONLY.         
             
-> > *
-> > 08:07:41 S: 220 
-> > 
************************************************************************
-> > 08:07:41 C: EHLO foxriver.net
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-winserver.com, Hello 50-196-212-77-
-> > static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net, why do you call yourself foxriver.net?
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SIZE 10240000
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-8BITMIME
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-SUBMITTER
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-ETRN
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH CRAM-MD5 DIGEST-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN PLAIN-MD5 SHA-1
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250-HELP
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250 STARTTLS
-> > 08:07:41 C: MAIL FROM:
-> > 08:07:41 S: 250 ... Sender validation 
-> pending. 
-> > Continue.
-> > 08:07:41 C: RCPT TO:
-> > 08:07:42 S: 550 Return Path not verifiable.
-> > 08:07:42 C: QUIT
-> > 08:07:42 S: 221 closing connection
-> > 08:07:42 ** Completed. Elapsed Time: 1422 msecs
-> >   
 
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