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to: Gene McAloon
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-07-09 12:34:26
subject: Re: I bet they did

From: Adam Flinton 

Gene McAloon wrote:

> On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:48:34 +0100, Adam Flinton

> wrote:
>
>
>>Gene McAloon wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 19:18:17 +0200, Phil Payne

wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Forget Osama bin Laden. He and his little bungling
bunch of religious
ideologues
>>>>>will accomplish nothing at all. They are a pin-prick on
the world body,
nothing
>>>>>more. It has always been so with these
"terrorist" idiots. They  come and
scare
>>>>>everybody for awhile, then fade into nothingness. It
has never been
otherwise.
>>>>
>>>>"Terrorists" have in the past been quite - almost
universally -
>>>>successful.  The USA and Israel come immediately to mind.
>>>
>>>
>>>But you see, they were terrorists only to you Brits. To
everyone else they
were
>>>freedom fighters and from G. Washington on were seen as such. The mistake
you
>>>Brits have always made is branding as terrorists those fighting
for freedom
from
>>>Brit tyranny. Big mistake, because you then are in the
humiliating position
of
>>>having to negotiate with those "terrorists" when you
finally decide to that
the
>>>cost of keeping them under control is no longer sustainable.
>>>
>>
>>Bit like you with the Arabs then.
>
>
> What Arabs? The only mess we have got with Arabs are those in Iraq, the mess
> Bush created and from which he is desperate to get out of.

Huh? Oh right so your long standing one sided total support for Israel
against them is a fiction? & then there is the whole bad blood wrt the
Libyans, Syrians, Lebanese & Sudanese.


>
>>
>>>I think of Jomo Kenyata, for example. Branded a terrorist by
London and the
>>>local white louts, he became one of Africa's early heroes and was
universally
>>>recognized as such.
>>
>>As OBL will be in the Arab world.
>
>
> Preposterous claim. OBL is a religious fanatic who, far from fighting for
> anyone's freedom, wants to impose a radical version of  Islam on everyone. He
> has some street crediility with the Arab public only becasue among other
things
> he is anti-American.
>

Not just. What the Arabs want is for a single figure who will rally them
all. It's an old desire & many have tried & failed (e,g, Nasser
& even Saddam). They tried socialist nationalism & it failed so OBL
is trying again but with redical Islam.


Adam

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