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to: Gene McAloon
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-07-12 21:02:24
subject: Re: October Surprise?

From: Adam Flinton 

Gene McAloon wrote:

> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 11:29:50 +0100, Adam Flinton

> wrote:
>
>
>>John Beamish wrote:
>>
>>
>>>This quote was an interesting assessment:
>>>
>>>So long as the neo-cons remain in power, Washington is little more than a
>>>suburb of Tel Aviv. And, in the Islamic world at least, an American
>>>disassociation from any action by Israel would not be believed.
 Israel and
>>>America are now perceived as one country.
>>>
>>
>>Yup. America is undoubtably a zionist entity.
>
>
> Your bigotry is showing, not too surprising in a Brit even in this day and
age.
>
> American policy towards Israel has always been a mixture of supporting the
> underdog and supporting an ally in a Middle East that at one time was heavily
> anti-American and anti-Brit.

No it wasn't. How can you possibly call Saudis,Jordanians, the Gulf Arabs,
etc anti-US? Even Egypt since Sadat has been pro-US & until the Islamic
revolution Iran was your best buddy.



> All the more so in that some Arab countries, newly
> freed of Brit imperialism, tended to ally with the Soviets.

Which? Egypt asked you for help & you refused. The only solidly
pro-soviet regime was Syria.


> For a time, Israel  was the only really dependable ally we had in that area,
other than
Turkey.
>

Rubbish. For which time? The Saudis would do anything for you so long as
you protected them.


> At present, the relationship under Bush is even closer, partly because the
> Republican right, particularly Cheney, have close ties to the far-right Likud
> and Bush must cater to the Christian right because they too support Israel
for
> biblical reasons. They, in fact, are now by far the most influential
supporters
> of Israel.
>
> American Jews, meanwhile, being mostly liberal, are torn between disgust with
> Likud and the natural affinity they feel for their co-religionist in Israel.
> Even then it is not so much a feeling of religious solidarity (few US Jews
are
> as far to the right religiously as the Orthodox in Israel) but rather a sort
of
> ethnic solidarity reinforced by memories of the Holocaust.
>
> Of course I wouldn't expect you to be aware of any of this. That would show a
> degree of awareness on your part I have yet to see demonstrated on any
subject.
>

Given the rest of your response is crap designed to cover up the avowedly
zionist nature of your country it's fair to say all this is too.

Adam

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