Michel,

can you repaste those links here so the next time I come back I can grab
them? I'm actually on my slackware linux box at the CLI prompt and
telnetting into the fidotel bbs to read/reply to my messages right now,
and I'm kind of a linux newbie still.... I think I manage to 'capture'
the URL by holding down the shift key and left mouse button, but I'm not
sure how / where I can paste it to grab it later... maybe an editor like
PICO ???  Argh, these learning curves are something else for me ;/

best
Matt





-> Hi Matt,

->      About "LSPPPDlr 2003" of December 5:

-> MG> Tell me more about your 'commo' program...
-> MS> ...`{Commo}' ISN'T FROM ME... 
-> MG> ...I ask a little tolerance and leeway...

->      Granted.  I've been the moving target of others so often these late
-> years i regularily feel the need for this myself!  %-)  Most of the guys
-> who address me usually sound like they've been "prepared"
so i can't but
-> welcome you...  8-)  Anyway, i believe the thread can be read from here:

->           http://fidonet.sensationcontent.com/echomail/dos_internet
->           http://www.fidonet.m.nu/echomail/area/DOS_INTERNET/LIST=1

-> MG> ...the next thing I know I've got people jumping all over me for
-> MG> saying the wrong thing in the wrong post at the wrong time...

->      That feels familiar enough for me who has been posting on `FidoNet'
-> for some time, which is why i refrained from warning you against using a
-> `BBBS', `WildCat!' or similar pre-1985 3rd-party `Kermit' implementation
-> when i read you about "Kermit for DOS" being
"painfully slow":  having a
-> chance to correspond with DOS LEGACY BBSers like myself is so unique the
-> warning could wait my next post i thought!  It's refreshing reading you.

->                                   8,-b

-> MG> ...if there is something that I, or someone else doesn't know,
-> MG> should we be afraid to ask a question?

->      If my reply makes you uncomfortable there's something wrong, either
-> you never heard of me or what you know is somewhat biased...  `LSPPPDlr'
-> wouldn't still be On-Line today if i didn't really want to save you from
-> the frustration;  ask me questions and i'll answer as honestly as i can.

-> MG> ...trying to figure out a way to dial up my ISP using a DOS ppp
-> MG> connection and telnetting into a BBS and being able to go to the
-> MG> files area and download using zmodem is something I've been
-> MG> intrigued about for a long time.  I really have to struggle...

->      An image is worth a thousand words.  You'll find that your transfer
-> rates depend on the ~ISP~, the HardWare/SoftWare and the BBS being used;
-> i've been lucky with all my ~ISP~s since none of them disabled a packet-
-> driver by doing validation via ~MS-CHAP~ exclusively (it isn't supported
-> by `EPPPD'/`LSPPP'), for example...  as for the file transfer protocols,
-> their availability and suitability will depend on your HardWare/SoftWare
-> in combination with the remote host implementations.  `{Commo}'/`ZMoDem'
-> seems OKay on my P-200 Mhz MMX but it doesn't "degrade" as
gracefully as
-> `Kermit' on more modest systems (unless `BBBS-Kermit'/`WC-Kermit' is the
-> only alternative to it)...  I have 8088 PCs and later, let me know about
-> your setup and i'll try to tell you what .ZIP cps rate you can dream of.

->                                   ;^)

-> MG> ...I'll take a look at what you've got.  I'm actually using
-> MG> BANANACOM right now, dialed into the last remaining BBS here...

->      I don't recall re-evaluating `BananaCom' in this century, i do know
-> i didn't retain it as a candidate when i searched for terminal emulators
-> with the features required for an external ~PPP~ packet-driver dialer in
-> any case - which was long before i switched to "Plan-B"
(~TelNet~ only).

->      Luckily, *IF* `BananaCom' supports ~FOSSIL~ interfacing, you should
-> be able to use your favourite SoftWare without much help from `{Commo}'s
-> `LSPPPDlr' macro:  simply generate some `SetPPP.BAT' + `LogIn.BAT' setup
-> thru `{Commo}'s Wizard then switch to `COMTool'.  I must testify that my
-> 8088s made an unforgiving test-bench and that `{Commo}' sure passed this
-> test, though...  Who would start from the ground up anyway?  I wouldn't!

->      I mention ~FOSSIL~ because i don't expect to hear about `BananaCom'
-> supporting ~TelNet~ internally.  Is v4 still the last realease there is?

->                                     Salutations,  ;-)

->                                     Michel Samson
->                                     a/s Bicephale
->                                     http://public.sogetel.net/bicephale/


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