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to: Adam
from: George Sherwood
date: 2006-11-24 17:48:02
subject: Re: Another Gemayel dies of lead poisoning

From: George Sherwood 

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 13:10:41 +0000, Adam wrote:

> George Sherwood wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:06:17 +0000, Adam wrote:
>>> & the CIA never eliminated & tortured people before
the WoT either. Nor
>>> did Mossad, the Iraqi mukharrabat etc.
>>>
>>> The point being that post cold war this behavior had been frowned on,
>>> whereas now it's an element of US gov policy.
>>>
>>>
>>> But yes I am being vindicated just as I was over Iraq being a
"welcome
>>> to coin" moment in March 2K3 rather than a joyous victory.
>>
>> Again another self proclaimed theory being validated by your own opinion.
>> Where has this been frowned on post Cold War?  Other then you, in whose
>> opinion. I am sure those killed in Chechnya before the WoT would disagree.
>> Along with those killed by the Mullahs in Iran.  And many other places in
>> the world were critics of the regime were killed.  Just because you say it
>> with authority, doesn't make it so.
>>
>> George
>
> Where was this frowned upon post cold war??? Are you serious? Oh maybe
> you think it was just coz the first proper post cold war president was
> Clinton & thus it was just those soft democrat liberals who frowned upon
> Intel orgs killing opponents/threats to national security (unless
> they're mossad obviously)
>
> Those killing in Chechnya were condemned as were those doing the same
> job in the Yugoslav/serbian intel orgs etc.
>
> Now however there's not a lot you can really say to a country which
> sends out it's killers & kidnappers so long as they can turn round to
> you & use the "national security/terrorism" card where
the state gets to
> define both.

Have you seen Russia claim this?  Show me the type of killings that I am
calling murders here that are being claimed as legit under what you call
the "new rules".  It is a theory in your mind.  You are the one
claiming Russia is using the "WoT" against people like this.  Not
Russia or any other country.

George

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