From: Ad 

George Sherwood wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:53:09 +0000, Adam wrote:
>
>>> You believe this is some great mystery?
>> Obviously you do not. Please tell me you aren't following the lead given
>> to you by your great leader once more.
>>
>> It's almost certainly not Syria. Of the "bad guys" it
might only be Iran
>> but that's fairly tenuous. Of the "good guys" it's
equally likely that
>> it's the Israelis.
>
> This is according to you.  And the same thing you said about Hariri.
>

No I did not. Hariri was in Syria's interest this was not.

>> Who would be damaged if the US & Syria started negotiating wrt
Iraq &
>> Lebanon esp if that includes the Golan?
>>
>> The Iranians would lost their route into Lebanon & Israel would possibly
>> lose the Golan.
>>
>> It is odd how the assassinations keep happening every time the US &
>> Syria look like getting a bit closer.
>
> And I am pretty sure you said the same things about the Hariri killing and
> even the UN has pretty much said Syria did it.

No I did not.

> It is always easy to say
> it was some one else.
>

Just like your President ? He was into the breach w/o any proof in seconds.


>
>>> But then again you believe that
>>> Litvinenko had a heart attack.
>>>
>> I never said that. What I said was : "50 & a stressful
last few years is
>> a common sort of heart attack combination"
>>
> That line makes even less sense now then when you said it.  You just
> through that out as a reasoning why it wasn't a target killing.
>

No I did not. I was making the point that usually in these cases the effect
is a heart attack.

Obviously the whole WoT & the pumping of missiles into people in
foreign countries, kidnapping etc has let the intel orgs off the leash so
why be subtle esp if you want to send a message.

>
>> I can't work out if he was given too much, too little or if the idea was
>> to cause consternation in the Ex-pat Russian community.
>>
>> However it's nothing which is outside the bounds of the
"WoT" as this
>> man was a threat to Russian national security & I suppose we are all
>> lucky that it wasn't a missile impacting his car in a busy London street.
>
> This is a great line for you, but is really silly.  So where there
"WoT"
> is being waged against critics.  It makes a nice sound bit for you to
> compare him in this way, but the facts are he was a critic of Russia.
> Please show where the we have gone after critics or even defectors?
>

Nah mate it's that you really don't seem to understand the world we live
in. It appears to be common to your people.

Look at the  events in Italy because of your Intel ppl engaging in an
illegal kidnapping & transfer to Egypt of a critic of the US. Their
head of Intel has been sacked & is under criminal investigation etc.

What about the German who was illegally kidnapped & then dumped in
Macedonia? If you make statements supporting the "terrorists"
then you are with the "terrorists" & thus you can be treated
as a "terrorist". Remember that line of thinking from your
president?

This Russian was making anti-state statements & thus was with the
terrorists & anti-state forces & thus could be
"rendered", executed or whatever else the state had chosen to do
to/with him.

I warned you this sort of this would occur given the precedents set by the
US with it's entirely illegal "rendition" & "execution
by predator/hellfire" programs.

Adam

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