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JR> Thank you for your message. However, you selectively JR> quoted my reply to another message. Yes, John, I quoted the offending paragraph, to show you and others exactly what the problem was; here it is again: === JR> These are all reputable modem makers. Diamond has a three JR> year warranty with no extra charges, (unlike some such as JR> Mike Bourne Electronics who advertises a 5 Year Warranty, JR> but after you buy and open the box you find that anything JR> over two years requires extra payments). Diamond also has JR> a 14 day No Questions Asked money back guarantee for direct JR> sales. Surely only a reputable company could offer these. === JR> 1) I was NOT "touting for business". JR> 2) I was not "denergrating a competitor" You were doing both. From the Concise Oxford Dictionary: "Tout v. & n. 1. v.i. Solicit custom, pester possible customers with requests (for orders); [..] 2. v.t. Solicit custom of (person) or for (thing) [..]" "Denigr|ate v.t. Blacken (fig.), defame; hence ~ator, ~ation [..]" The paragraph I've requoted above clearly seeks to put your company and its products ahead of a competitor's; it clearly seeks to induce people to buy your products rather than those of a competitor you've chosen to name. You've also made references to another competitor, regarding their Austel approval status, in another series of messages. This behaviour, I will _not_ repeat again, is forbidden to vendors here. JR> I was replying to a very rude and basically silly message JR> regarding Diamond modems and Taiwanese modems in general. Vendors posting in here have very special responsibilities. If people can't discuss Diamonds or any other brands in here, including the service they are likely to receive, without vendors or their representatives interfering with that discussion to promote (or defend) their products, then it's the vendors who'll have to go. Most vendors, fortunately, know this all too well. JR> I pointed out a fact about the supposed warranty on Mike JR> Bourne modems. Surely the buying public should be warned It is not your place to do anything here but provide support on requests from customers for configuration etc, to assist them to get modems they've already paid for going properly. That is the only basis on which vendors may post to this conference, apart from general discussions on modem technology in which they do NOT promote their own (or put down others') products. You've stepped over that line - it is NOT your place to 'warn' anyone off your competitors. JR> Partly beacause I was warned about your "unreasonable JR> nature" especially regarding Diamond modems (Ben Kelly and JR> Ian from Loadstone told me) I am espessialy careful in this JR> echo to "go by the rules". Please do not be unreasonable - Ben Kelly - who lied shamelessly and more than once in this echo that he was just a customer, yet who answered the phone when I rang the business he was trying to induce people to patronise, admitting to being its proprietor? The same Ben Kelly who said, when challenged about lying to the participants of this conference for his own commercial advantage, that 'everyone does it', conceding when pressed that by 'everyone' he was in fact referring to you? As for Ian McWhirter, he's already offered me his support, including denial of access, if you're again found to be in breach of the rules of this conference. The next message you post here that demonstrates, to my satisfaction, that you are unable or unwilling to follow this conference's guidelines - that have the voting support of (I do believe) most of the participants here - will occasion you having signed yourself out for a second term. Your choice, but just once. I also believe that I have been more than reasonable, and so do some others who've netmailed me over the last while. If you have any further response to make to this matter, make it only by NETMAIL; this subject is closed here. Ian (moderator) --- MaltEd 1.0.b5* Origin: Magic Puddin' BBS Nimbin 066-89-1843 V.32bis/V.42 (3:626/660) SEEN-BY: 50/99 78/0 620/243 623/630 624/300 626/660 661 664 667 711/401 409 SEEN-BY: 711/410 413 425 430 431 501 510 521 523 665 808 809 899 926 932 934 SEEN-BY: 712/515 713/888 714/906 800/1 7877/2809 @PATH: 626/660 711/401 808 809 934 |
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