> > And if you call the Supra "iffy", then you must 
> > also call the Maestro, Boca, etc "iffy" as well, I 
> > didn't notice you making that statement.  BFN.  Paul.  

> TR> Do the Maestro and Boca etc also have problems 
> TR> with the Courier?  

> No, but they do have the double-send problem, which is 
> what you were claiming as evidence of the Supra being 
> iffy.  

TR> I was actually claiming that a modem (Rod's V32bis Supra) which has 
TR> problems talking to _both_ the Courier and the Spirit at V32bis was iffy.  

So the failures to the Spirit do not make the modem count as
iffy?  Well if we discount that from the iffy stats, then 
the Supra only has the one iffy connect, which is with the 
Courier.  And that fault, could be either of Supra's or
USR's fault, we can't tell.  We can tell that disabling V32terbo
makes that particular problem go away, which gives a great weight
of evidence as to where the problem is.

TR> You then stated that I must call the other brands you mentioned iffy (see 
TR> above).  

TR> So, I asked about their relationship with your Courier. As you concede that 
TR> they do not have the particular problem, I do not see any reason at all why 
TR> I must call them iffy.  

You must call them iffy, because you are using the problems with
the Spirit as "iffy-evidence".  Oh yeah, the Maestro's had the
problem with the connect to Spirit Thunder as well (complete
failure, rather than double-send).

TR> On the quite separate "double-send" issue, the newer
Maestro V32bis modems 
TR> did not exhibit it at all when talking to a Spirit II. As the Spirit II has 
TR> not changed, therefore the newer version Maestro V32bis modems must have 
TR> been "fixed".  

Are you sure about this?  That's the first I heard of that.
Are you sure you're not talking about the V34 modems?  THEY
don't have the problem.  What changed in the Maestro modems?
Was it just a ROM upgrade?  BFN.  Paul.
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