CH> Could be that your Computer/Operating System/Multitasker that you are
 CH> calling in with just isn't fast enough to pass more than 38400 or
 CH> 57600cps to the screen which is why you don't see any difference
 GG> I doubt it.  I tested under plain DOS, DESQview/DOS, Win95, and OS/2.
 GG> I tested when I had only 14400, and then again with a 
 GG> new 28800, and with a
 GG> 33600 when those came out.  (I've been a beta tester for Supra since 
their
 GG> first 14400's came out, and am even now testing 56k modems, so I'm 
lways
 GG> playing with all aspects of the connection, from init 
 GG> strings to port speeds
 GG> and fossils.)
 GG> Now, if all my BBS did was textfiles, I might say "Yes, 
 GG> 57600 is worth it",
 GG> but since most of BBSing is downloading and reading messages (and most 

Gary, what do you think your Bulletins and online message message bases are?
Now if your modems compression is shut off, that is a different story. No 
matter what you lock your baud rate at in that situation, it isn't going to 
make any difference.
 GG> that is users download mail packets), I still say that 
 GG> a port speed of 115200
 GG> isn't necessaary.  Besides, many doors can't handle 
 GG> speeds higher than 57600,
 GG> so there's a problem for those that offer doors to the user.
 CH> No, it isn't pretty much "hooey" Gary. I don't 
 CH> think you understand or
 GG> Trust me... I understand quite well.
Trust me Gary, I -still- don't think you understand. Many beta testers are 
chosen purposly for thier lack of understanding, so beta testing a modem 
doesn't automatically make you any kind of an expert.
 CH> with Zmodem. I get about 8500-10,000 cps 
 GG> downloading uncompressed text
 CH> files from Max NT to Bink NT.
 GG> Again, if all your BBS users are doing is downloading 
 GG> uncompressed text files
 GG> all day, by all means, feel free to lock high.  I 
 GG> highly doubt, however, that
 GG> the majority of BBSes fall into such a condition.
The point being that with a high locked baud rate, since -all- your .BBS and 
message displays are indeed text, an online user (if he locks his baud at 
115200 also) will have a much snappier response from your BBS reading 
messages, bulletins, listing files, -everything- except downloading 
compressed files, with much more speed and "snap". They will display to him 
at 8500 to 10,000 cps as compared to 3500 cps or slower with a 38400 baud 
rate. You are transferring text files from your BBS to the user at a similiar 
rate as you transfer a text file using a file transfer protocal. I mentioned 
the file xfer protocal because you can measure the rate, so that it might 
just dawn on you that your .BBS screens and your message base will display 2 
to 3 times faster to an online user with a baud rate locked as 115200 as 
compared to 38400 baud. It -is- much quicker and more pleasant for an online 
user use a system with a locked baudrate of 115200 as compared to 38400. 
That's how I do my mail every morning. Shoot the difference in cursor 
movement speed in the full screen editor is worth having a high locked baud 
rate for. If you can't see this on your system, then you obviously have a 
slow system or something screwed up when you are doing your  "testing".
Aw, I give up Gary, you are right you are a friggen expert. Don't change a 
damn thing. I just hope everyone following this thread doesn't take your word 
for it, and tries it for themselves. 
--- Maximus/NT 3.01b1
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