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echo: barktopus
to: John Beckett
from: Ad
date: 2006-12-04 09:51:08
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Ad 

John Beckett wrote:
> Eeeww. Are you allowed to accurately describe islamists in today's PC
> world?
>
> Notice also Adam's reply - totally dodged the issue with some glib
> comment.
>

Bollox. I was simply pointing out the deep fallacy within your statement.

You statement was basically almost entirely fallacious But hey pointing out
facts to true believers is always tricky.

Your question was:

"> Good points, but how about some other calculations?
 >
 > In a population of 1 million Christians living in a first world country,
 > how many are likely to perform a terrorist act?
 >
 > How about if 1 million Muslims?"


So suddenly it would seem that you are counting all terrorists from
"Christian countries" such as Ireland, Germany, Italy etc. As
being "non-Christian terrorists" where terrorists from Muslim
countries e.g. Palestinians fighting for a nationalist cause are
"Muslim Terrorists".

Gee who's really the troll here.

The IRA for example were given repeated help by the Catholic Church in
Ireland. But one presumes that in Beckett-land those were
"non-Christian catholic priests" helping to hide "the
boys".

You're the one dodging & diving in part I suspect coz you realise that
proper discussion of your point was going to disprove your point thus the
trolling & std ad hominem rubbish.

Adam


> John
>
>
> Ellen K.  wrote in message
> news::
>> I don't know who all the other groups are/were, but "Anglo" and
>> "Christian" are not synonymous.  The Baader Meinhof group were not
>> Christians and would probably be insulted if you called them Christians,
>> in view of Marx' statement that religion is the opiate of the masses.
>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to know whether they consider
>> themselves Christians, but everything I ever read about them indicated
>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to e.g. agitating for the
>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>
>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists claim their acts are religious
>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic clerics make statements
>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are rarely -- if ever -- contradicted
>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts are what make the public
>> believe Islam is waging war on the non-Islamic world, particularly when
>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>
>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote in
>> message :
>>
>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF, IPLO, INLA, ETA, Baader Meinhof,
>>> Red Brigades etc?
>

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