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to: Antti Kurenniemi
from: Adam Flinton
date: 2004-08-02 23:00:18
subject: Re: Wolf

From: Adam Flinton 

Antti Kurenniemi wrote:
> There's great irony in that, to be willing to kill innocents to kill
> terrorists, who would have killed innocents... Now, who was the bad guy?
> Sad, and quite frightening actually how people can't understand what they
> become when they think of themselves better than others to the extent that
> they become just like those they are supposed to be better.
>

Yup...we are going to kill innocents because out political aim is to stop
people killing innocents in the pursuit of a politcal aim...

Adam


>
> Antti Kurenniemi
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:410e1f75{at}w3.nls.net...
>
>>No, I was discussing Iraq, not killing terrorists specifically, and
>
> frankly
>
>>your implication it was worth it to kill terrorists now disgusts me.  How
>>many innocents are you willing to kill to kill one terrorist...
>>
>>- Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>news:410dbdef{at}w3.nls.net...
>>
>>>We aren't discussing going in the first place.  We are discussing
>
> killing
>
>>>terrorists there, and we are.
>>>
>>>Gary
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>>>news:410da657$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>
>>>>>Nobody said we are there killing links.  We are there killing
>>>
>>>terrorists,
>>>
>>>>>and we are.
>>>>
>>>>Terrorist links and there wasn't any until we went in.  Now there is
>
> but
>
>>>you
>>>
>>>>can't use that as reasoning for us to go in in the first place.
>>>>
>>>>- Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>news:410d933a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>
>>>>>"Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>>news:410d8cf0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes they were.  That's my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are wrong, plain and simple, there has been no
terrorist link
>
> that
>
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>ever been uncovered, you're only source is the Bush
administration
>
> and
>
>>>>>>they're just covering their asses right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>Nobody said we are there killing links.  We are there killing
>>>
>>>terrorists,
>>>
>>>>>and we are.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>You can't free 25 to 50 million people
>>>>>>>from tyranny without some civilian casualties.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We haven't freed *anyone* from tyranny in Iraq, for
one there's no
>>>
>>>proof
>>>
>>>>>>that it's as bad as it was advertised to begin with
and the new
>>>>>>government
>>>>>>is going to be same-o same-o anyway.  Not to
mention also doesn't
>
> mean
>
>>>>>they
>>>>>
>>>>>>were terrorists btw.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah the Hussein was just a misunderstood genteel
dictator crowd rears
>>>>>its
>>>>>head.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Look to somewhere like Sudan, now there's tyranny
and a need for our
>>>>>
>>>>>troops,
>>>>>
>>>>>>but darn, they're all tied up in a war that's meaningless.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes and we are the only country trying to help.  Foni
Annan and the
>
> UN
>
>>>>>aren't willing to sanction any help.  What you want us to go in
>
> without
>
>>>>>the
>>>>>UN's and France's approval?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>We are there killing the terrorists and seeking
to transform the
>>>
>>>middle
>>>
>>>>>>>east
>>>>>>>through a bold and visionary policy from our
President George
>
> Bush.
>
>>>>>>That policy just breeds more terrorists.
>>>>>
>>>>>No it kills terrorists, and more importantly can lay
the groundwork
>
> for
>
>>>>>killing the concept of terrorism, which is something even more
>>>
>>>important.
>>>
>>>>>Gary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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