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to: Antti Kurenniemi
from: Gary Britt
date: 2004-08-08 07:50:34
subject: Re: The EU Atheist Sloth Ethic

From: "Gary Britt" 

If you have things that are worth fighting and dying for, then you have
beliefs that are worth fighting for and dying for.  The things = beliefs. 
I think you are hung up on a very restricted definition of beliefs.  I
believe the original question was along the lines of is there not anything
you believe in that's worth fighting and dying for?  You originally
answered no, now you seem to say yes.  What are the "things" you
think are worth fighting and dying for?

Gary

"Antti Kurenniemi"  wrote
in message news:411608ec{at}w3.nls.net...
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:41158d8a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > I'm not British, but I have a possible explanation as for myself at
> least:
> > > Beliefs schmeliefs, I mean, what the hell, I'll
"believe" anything to
> stay
> > > alive. Hello, I'll believe something else tomorrow, after whatever
> > threatens
> > > me is gone.
> >
> > That's how Europe and many European Jews embraced Nazism, with just that
> > kind of thinking.  You may be on your way there again.  I certainly hope
> > not, but if there isn't anything worth fighting and dying for, then it
> just
> > takes a madman with some goons to make slaves out of you all once again.
>
> How do you guys always go to the extremes like this? Where the hell did I
> say there isn't *anything* worth fighting for? I never said that, and I
> never ever would agree with that. There most certainly are things to fight
> for, even die for, I just said that to me, such a thing as
"beliefs" is
not
> one of them. Hell, I change my mind about what I believe in all the time
> (well not really but could just as well - it's all just in my head).
>
>
> > Better think about it.
>
> No you better think about it. Beliefs are abstract, they're nothing real.
> They may as well prove to be wrong. You'd kill and die for something that
> tomorrow may turn out to have been complete crap? Think about it.
>
>
> Antti Kurenniemi
>
>

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