From: "Antti Kurenniemi" 

Difficult to say, they are so abstract. Freedom? What, you mean like
freedom to fart in public? I could live without that. Or democracy? People
are oppressed even in democracies, so I guess it depens on who's definition
of democracy. And so on. Silly thing to ask really.


Antti Kurenniemi

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:41167e36$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> But are they "things" worth fighting and dying for?
>
> Gary
>
> "Antti Kurenniemi" 
wrote in message
> news:41166dbc{at}w3.nls.net...
> > To me, those are ideals not beliefs. Different things altogether.
> >
> >
> > Antti Kurenniemi
> >
> > "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> > news:411656e9$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > So freedom, personal individual liberty, democracy, the form of
> government
> > > under which you must live, none of these things are worth fighting and
> > dying
> > > for?
> > >
> > > Gary
> >
> >
>
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