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to: Joseph Meehan
from: Lady Carrigaholt
date: 2007-03-29 23:14:36
subject: Re: Catholic Women: Rocking the Boat

From: Lady Carrigaholt 



Joseph Meehan wrote:

> CE wrote:
> > On Mar 29, 7:34 am, "Joseph Meehan"

> > wrote:
> >
> >>     When I was in pre-med it was about 40% women (back in the 60's)
> >>
> >>> The last graduating class from the same school had over 50% women
> >>> graduates.
> >
> > The percentage of doctors who are women is not relevent to this
> > discussion because the claim I made was that even in today's society
> > it is still the man's role to defend and provide for women and
> > children.
>
>     No any more or less than it is the woman's role.   Maybe you see it your
> way, but the rest of the world is passing you by.
>
> > Doctors heal. They nurture. In the process of doing that, yes, they
> > save lives. So does the baker when he or she provides bread for people
> > to eat. Without food, we'd all perish. But that doesn't make baking an
> > act of defending people or providing for them since the bread is sold.
> >
> > In the occupations where there is a clear mandate to defend the
> > population from danger, such as among police officers, firefighters
> > and soldiers, the overwhelming majority of people who hold those jobs
> > are men. This is a clear indication that the men gravitate towards
> > these occupations and women shy away from them because it is still
> > seen as the man's role to defend women and children.
>
>     More likely because people like you try to direct them to what they
> think is right for them based on their sex.  Times are changing you are
> missing the boat.
>
>     That is OK for you.  You should pick your parts in life that fit you,
> but you are just not seeing that is happening if you think things are not
> changing.  The big change started at WWII and has been progressing ever
> since.  The digital age is accelerating it.
>
>     It is true that some jobs tend to be filled by men based on the need for
> physical strength that most women do not have (as well as smaller men, but
> those jobs are becoming fewer and fewer and more women are finding out that
> they can fill those jobs.  My sister in law is a carpenter, a traditionally
> male job, and a good one.  She also managed to save my son when he fell off
> a slide.  I would call that defending people.
>
> --
> Joseph Meehan
>
>  Dia 's Muire duit

My grandmother defended and nurtured at the same time by sewing gelignite
into bedsheets to wrap around a bridge pier.,....in 1916


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