LE>>> * No need for a RAM chip

 LE>>> * No need to license protocols (MNP5, MNP10) from Microcom

 RB>> Agreed, This does save cost, But not heartache & hassle to the user.



 LE> Russell, your message carries a flavor which leads me to think that you 

 LE> believe

 LE> I was -justifying- RPI modems. Please believe me when I tell you I don't



Didn't mean it that way, sorry.



 RB>> In the real world people buy a modem to DO A JOB and don't need to be

 RB>> stuffing around for a half hour with drivers, just to send one file that



 LE> Half an hour is a bit optimistic, actually.



 RB>> BTW, USR have actually brought out another type of modem that can only 

 LE> be

 RB>> used with Windows. It is not an RPI modem.



 LE> Never heard of it, and don't want to ! Are you sure it's not RPI ? I know 

 LE> USR

 LE> have released one RPI unit.



Well you're gunna

I can't put my hands on the original Press release at this time, but the

stuff below might give you an idea.



I know I am wastin my time and yours here, But I also think USR are wastin 

there time even thinking about this modem.

They offered 200 of them FREE to the first 200 people that called them.



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From : Steve Prado                         10-Feb-96  12:37:00  1:3822/1

To   : Joe Frankiewicz                                          3:640/305

Subj : FREE MODEMS!!

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JF->There is no "proper" terminal program, it works with the
applications

JF->you are using now.   Procomm/Win, Telix/Win, your favorite net

JF->browser, or whatever. It is not an RPI modem, and does not suffer from

JF->the peculiarities of RPI.  It does not need any RPI driver and does

JF->not need any "special" terminal program.



I suggest you pass on to the pakageing dept. that they would want to

make that clear on the package. I havew users ask me *EVERY DAY* about

modems. One of the first things I suggest is that they *DON"T* get a RPI

modem.



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From : Rick Graham                         11-Feb-96  19:42:00  3:640/305

To   : Joe Frankiewicz                                          3:640/305

Subj : Free modems!!

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Hello Joe,



-> If they are used with Windows and the proper terminal program, I

-> expect winmodems will work pretty well.



-> There is no "proper" terminal program, it works with the
applications

-> you are using now.   Procomm/Win, Telix/Win, your favorite net

-> browser, or whatever. It is not an RPI modem, and does not suffer

-> from the peculiarities of RPI.  It does not need any RPI driver and

-> does not need any "special" terminal program.



-> But I expect some of them will be sold with no mention of the special

-> needs.



-> The only requirement is Windows, and that's pretty hard to overlook

-> or misunderstand.



I want to thank you Joe Bub, for clearing this entire debate about a

topic that essientially boils down to "there is nothing wrong with this

piece of hardware if used as instructed."  Your short `matter of factly'

replies are more efficient and taken more seriously than any long winded

"modem guru" could ever possibly hope quip out.



later bud...

Rick {at}1:3815/123

WinModem FT test participant



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From : Anthony Hill                        19-Feb-96  16:18:00  1:163/416

To   : Richard Town                                             3:640/305

Subj : Free modems!!

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 -> If they are used with Windows and the proper terminal program, I

 -> expect winmodems will work pretty well.

 JF> There is no "proper" terminal program, it works with the
applications

 JF> you are using now.   Procomm/Win, Telix/Win, your favorite net

 JF> browser, or whatever.

 JF> The only requirement is Windows, and that's pretty hard to overlook or

 JF> misunderstand.

RT> 

RT> Could you tell two things please?  What is the software supplied with a

RT> WinModem, and what is the largest "frame" or page size? 
Alright, three



        The Winmodem is a controllerless modem.  The software supplied

is what tells the host computer how to handle all the error control,

data compression, AT commands, etc.  It also controls how the computer

actually talks to the modem (it emulates a serial port and UART).  By

largest "frame" size are you refering to the largest LAP-M packets

that it'll negotiate?  If so, I'm not entirely certain, but I think

it's only 128 bytes.



RT> things, does it have Cellular support?



        No.  It's basically just a regular Sportster only with all the

controller functions handed over to the host computer and the Windows

software.



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