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> "Perplexed in Peoria"  wrote
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> > Actually, if "r" is calculated by my formula, I don't
need to concede
> > anything.  My formula gives the value of "r" as zero
(or actually -1/N)
> > when there is only one carrier of the allele.  So Hamilton's rule still
> > works.
>
> You seem to be on the right track (i.e. your thinking does seem to be
> consistent with conventional thought on the mathematics of kin
> selection), however, if i understand what you are trying to do above,
> -1/N should be -1/(N-1).
>
> 1/N + ((N-1)/N)*r = 0
>
> => r = -1/(N-1)
>
> I think the problem might be that you had not included the focal
> individual's allele frequency within the population allele frequency
> p. Although, as I said, I might have misunderstood what you were
> doing.

You have indeed understood what I was doing.  I accept your correction.
Silly mistake for me to have made, given the current thread on HW.
And thanks for confirming that I am on the right track in my
understanding of Hamilton.  It is amazing how many philosophical
and mathematical subtleties go into that simple result "rb>c".
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