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to: John Fraser
from: arah
date: 2007-03-29 21:50:02
subject: Re: Will those who pray to Jesus go to hell?

From: "arah" 

My dear John,

Do you agree with the Pope?

POPE PROCLAIMS HELL 'EXISTS AND IS ETERNAL' Post Wire Services

March 26, 2007 -- ROME - Hell is a place where sinners burn in an eternal fire,
and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful, the Pope has
said.
God's mercy and love are great, but those who reject him should know that hell
"exists and is eternal, even if nobody talks about it much any more," Pope
Benedict XVI proclaimed during a weekend visit to a Rome parish.


The Pope, who as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was head of Catholic doctrine, noted
that "forgiveness of sins" for those who repent was a cornerstone
of Christian
belief. He recalled that Jesus had forgiven the "woman taken in
adultery" and
prevented her from being stoned to death, observing: "He that is without sin
among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

So there are few questions araised?

Who does the Pope meant by God's mercy? It is Jesus or the Almighty God?

Who does everyone from time of Adam, Noah, Solomon, John the baptish pray
to ? Jesus or Almighty God?

God had given men and women free will to choose whether "spontaneously to accept
salvation...the Christian faith is not imposed on anyone."

What is mean by Christian faith is not impose on anyone? Let check what are
written in the bible .

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests

    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of
the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil
must be purged from Israel.  (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)








Death to Followers of Other Religions

    Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be
doomed.  (Exodus 22:19 NAB)


Kill Nonbelievers

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their
fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the
Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great,
whether man or woman.  (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

So does the Christian followt the Pope or the Bible? You can't believe both
because it contracdicts.

Is the bible  absolete? Or the Pope is following the Quran, because in the
Quran we cannot force someone to follow Islam. The truth is very clear.

Oh Almighty God, please show us the truth and save us from the hell fire.

AMEN






On Mar 29, 7:02 pm, "John Fraser"  wrote:
> Good morning Arah;
>
> "arah"  wrote in message
>
> news:1175142456.943708.93120{at}p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
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> > Did Mary pray to Jesus?
>
> > No
>
> > Did John the Baptist pray to Jesus?
> > No
>
> > Did all the followers ( students or disciples) pray to Jesus ?
>
> > No
>
> > Did Jesus ask to pray to him?
>
> > No
>
> > Jesus is human he is not God.  So why pray to  human ?
>
> > We have to pray and ask from Almighty God.
>
>     If one concentrates on Jesus the man, no one prayed to him nor were they
> encouraged to do so.  If that is what you choose to concentrate on, you will
> miss out on other things, too.  One does not have to be a member of an
> occult society to be against Jesus, one does so in their heart.  If that is
> what you choose to concentrate on, you will miss out on other things, too.
>
>     Is there joy and peace in your heart?
>
> Cheers,
> John
>
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>
> > On Mar 28, 9:58 am, "Jeckyl"  wrote:
> >> >"arah"  wrote in message
> >> >news:1175011834.519350.163290{at}b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> >> >My dear Christians.
>
> >> >Please read and understand what Jesus said in Matthew.
> >> > So stop praying to Jesus but pray and  pray and ask from
Almighty God
>
> >> I see what is written .. but I don't see how that means one should not
> >> pray
> >> to jesus . it just seems ot say that simply appealing to
Jesus as lord is
> >> not enough.  Not that it should not be done.- Hide quoted text -
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