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>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff North"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Dionisio"  wrote in message
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Jeff North"  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gawd also condones child sex - Lott and his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
daughters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Lott condoned, not God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can
hear the attorneys now... "Objection, Your Honor!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is
a matter of record that Lot was intoxicated, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not of
sound mind, nor in his right mind at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Further, his condition -- again a matter of record --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
caused by the juvenile delinquents (erm, daughters)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
question, whom deliberately and willfully took gross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
advantage of his emotional despondency (not to mention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
person) for their own hedonistic purposes! Lot is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
victim of this crime, not the perpetrator!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Apparently, His Honor, agreed, for Lot did not die as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result
of engaging in incest; As mandated in Leviticus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show where
Lott committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go ask your
preacher to finish the story of S&G for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't show where
Lott committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahhaha!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=9
>>>>>>>>>>> 31And the firstborn said unto
the younger, Our father is old,
>>>>>>>>>>> and there is not a man in the
earth to come in unto us after
>>>>>>>>>>> the manner of all the earth:
>>>>>>>>>>> 32Come, let us make our father
drink wine, and we will lie
>>>>>>>>>>> with him, that we may preserve
seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>>> 33And they made their father
drink wine that night: and the
>>>>>>>>>>> firstborn went in, and lay
with her father; and he perceived
>>>>>>>>>>> not when she lay down, nor
when she arose.
>>>>>>>>>>> 34And it came to pass on the
morrow, that the firstborn said
>>>>>>>>>>> unto the younger, Behold, I
lay yesternight with my father:
>>>>>>>>>>> let us make him drink wine
this night also; and go thou in,
>>>>>>>>>>> and lie with him, that we may
preserve seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>>> 35And they made their father
drink wine that night also: and
>>>>>>>>>>> the younger arose, and lay
with him; and he perceived not
>>>>>>>>>>> when she lay down, nor when she arose.
>>>>>>>>>>> 36Thus were both the daughters
of Lot with child by their
>>>>>>>>>>> father. 37And the first born
bare a son, and called his name
>>>>>>>>>>> Moab: the same is the father
of the Moabites unto this day.
>>>>>>>>>>> 38And the younger, she also
bare a son, and called his name
>>>>>>>>>>> Benammi: the same is the
father of the children of Ammon unto
>>>>>>>>>>> this day.
>>>>>>>>>> "...and he perceived not when
she lay down, nor when she
>>>>>>>>>> arose...." He was raped. 
While unconscious.
>>>>>>>>> Think about the story for a moment... 
There he was, drunk on
>>>>>>>>> his ass, unconscious, or at most
semi-conscious, yet this guy,
>>>>>>>>> at least middle age and probably older
given that the average
>>>>>>>>> lifespan was 45 or 50, was able to
achieve and maintain an
>>>>>>>>> errection long enough for his
daughters to rape him.
>>>>>>>> So the story goes...
>>>>>>>>> The entire story is so cockamamie that
it's laughable.
>>>>>>>> Yep, but there it is....
>>>>>>>> I didn't write it...
>>>>>>> You just believe it is something more than a fairytale.
>>>>>> Yep, more than a fairytale.
>>>>> Not really, that's all it is.
>>>> Your opinion.
>>> Not really, just poking at the logical flaws in the tale is pretty
>>> conclusive proof that it was either made up, or based very, and I
>>> stress, very loosely on something that may have happened.   Either
>>> way, a fable, or fairytale.
>> Your opinion of logical flaws (which you actually failed to mention)
>> isn't proof and certainly isn't conclusive proof....
> I have mentioned them, you just can't honestly address them.

There aren't "logical" flaws in the story.

> As you are obviously slow, I will repeat:
> "Think about the story for a moment...  There he was, drunk on his ass,
> unconscious, or at most semi-conscious, yet this guy, at least middle age
> and probably older given that the average lifespan was 45 or 50, was able
> to achieve and maintain an  errection long enough for his daughters to
> rape him."
> Can you offer an actual rebuttal, based in something other than
> handwaving?

Prove that getting an erection is IMPOSSIBLE while unconscious and you've
made your point.  Otherwise you don't have a point.

>>>> Thanks for sharing....
>>> No problem, let me know if I can educate you further.
>> Oh, you already started?
> Yes, but you are an exceptionally slow student.

See above.

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