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to: Ad
from: Ellen K.
date: 2006-12-10 15:45:56
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Ellen K. 

Do you have any quotes from Catholic priests specifically supporting the
terrorist acts committed by the IRA?  Or stating that the IRA's activities
represented a war against Protestantism?

On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:51:08 +0000, Ad
 wrote in message
:

>John Beckett wrote:
>> Eeeww. Are you allowed to accurately describe islamists in today's PC
>> world?
>>
>> Notice also Adam's reply - totally dodged the issue with some glib
>> comment.
>>
>
>Bollox. I was simply pointing out the deep fallacy within your statement.
>
>You statement was basically almost entirely fallacious But hey pointing
>out facts to true believers is always tricky.
>
>Your question was:
>
>"> Good points, but how about some other calculations?
> >
> > In a population of 1 million Christians living in a first world country,
> > how many are likely to perform a terrorist act?
> >
> > How about if 1 million Muslims?"
>
>
>So suddenly it would seem that you are counting all terrorists from
>"Christian countries" such as Ireland, Germany, Italy etc. As being
>"non-Christian terrorists" where terrorists from Muslim countries e.g.
>Palestinians fighting for a nationalist cause are "Muslim Terrorists".
>
>Gee who's really the troll here.
>
>The IRA for example were given repeated help by the Catholic Church in
>Ireland. But one presumes that in Beckett-land those were "non-Christian
>catholic priests" helping to hide "the boys".
>
>You're the one dodging & diving in part I suspect coz you realise that
>proper discussion of your point was going to disprove your point thus
>the trolling & std ad hominem rubbish.
>
>Adam
>
>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Ellen K.  wrote in message
>> news::
>>> I don't know who all the other groups are/were, but
"Anglo" and
>>> "Christian" are not synonymous.  The Baader Meinhof
group were not
>>> Christians and would probably be insulted if you called them Christians,
>>> in view of Marx' statement that religion is the opiate of the masses.
>>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to know whether they consider
>>> themselves Christians, but everything I ever read about them indicated
>>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to e.g. agitating for the
>>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>>
>>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists claim their acts are religious
>>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic clerics make statements
>>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are rarely -- if ever -- contradicted
>>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts are what make the public
>>> believe Islam is waging war on the non-Islamic world, particularly when
>>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>> message :
>>>
>>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF, IPLO, INLA, ETA,
Baader Meinhof,
>>>> Red Brigades etc?
>>

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