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to: Ellen K.
from: Ad
date: 2006-12-12 07:00:14
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Ad 

Ellen K. wrote:
> Pakistan.  Apparently Lebanon.
>

Pakistan is shiite? Lebanon???  Did the entire Lebanese civil war pass you by?

Adam

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:39:12 +0000, Adam
> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
> message :
>
>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>> How many Shiite Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>>
>> Chuckle. So you ask a question assuming what turns out to be false & now
>> you try & refine your question.
>>
>> OK So Ellen how many Shiite Muslim countries are there?
>>
>> 1? Iran?
>>
>> Gee so let's ask this another way, How many Jewish countries outlaw
>> Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:50:49 +0000, Adam
>>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>> message :
>>>
>>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>> Kahane Chai is one organization.  It is outlawed by
the state of Israel.
>>>>> There are hundreds if not thousands of other Jewish
organizations who
>>>>> are on record as opposing its activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>>>>
>>>> Oh lots. Saudi for one.
>>>>
>>>> Most of the Absolute sunni monarchies but esp the Saudi.
>>>>
>>>> Wave a hezbollah flag there & see how quickly the
police turn up.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>> How many Muslim organizations are on record as opposing their
>>>>> activities?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:57:34 +0000, Ad
>>>>>  wrote in message
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>>>> I don't know who all the other groups
are/were, but "Anglo" and
>>>>>>> "Christian" are not synonymous.  The
Baader Meinhof group were not
>>>>>>> Christians and would probably be insulted if
you called them
Christians,
>>>>>>> in view of Marx' statement that religion is
the opiate of the masses.
>>>>>>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to know
whether they consider
>>>>>>> themselves Christians, but everything I ever
read about them indicated
>>>>>>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to
e.g. agitating for the
>>>>>>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists claim
their acts are religious
>>>>>>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic
clerics make statements
>>>>>>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are rarely
-- if ever --
contradicted
>>>>>>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts are
what make the public
>>>>>>> believe Islam is waging war on the non-Islamic
world, particularly when
>>>>>>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So then one could wonder about Zionists who are
equally claiming a
>>>>>> religious justification for their acts of
violence. Meir Kahane was a
>>>>>> Rabbi & Kahane Chai is classified as a
Terrorist organization.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or as usual is that somehow "different" ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> & then there is the BJP/RSS in India which has
repeatedly called for &
>>>>>> achieved religious based massacres such as in Gujarat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Different again I suppose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People are people & all religions &
people's have their nutty violent
wing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>>>>>>>
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
>>>>>>> message :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF, IPLO,
INLA, ETA, Baader Meinhof,
>>>>>>>> Red Brigades etc?
>

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