On 2018 Jul 03 20:37:18, you wrote to me:

 ml>> no... "quote attribution line"... the one at the
top... specifically,
 ml>> the one in robert's post showing a binkp.net address for ben's system
 ml>> ;)

 PH> Ahh you mean

 PH> -> From: nospam.Ben.Ritchey{at}f68.n393.z1.binkp.net (Ben Ritchey)
 PH> -> Subject: Re: BUG !!!

yes...

 PH> Well that's the gateway software I am running. I thought binkp.net had
 PH> usurped the role of fidonet.org as the latter had been lost to squatters
 PH> while the former is a service offered to all who sign up?

AFAIK, binkp.net is /only/ for fidonet address fnz conversion lookups... i
doubt that binkp.net accepts email for fidonet systems and gates it to
netmail but it is possible... i'm testing that theory right now ;)

ahhh! ok... it does work but


  1. there has to be an entry in binkp.net which there should be since it
is maintained from the nodelist.

  2. there is no email->netmail conversion done by binkp.net.

  3. the SMTP server initially receiving the email performs the lookup on binkp.net.

  4. if there is a valid IP for the fnz address, the SMTP server will
attempt to connect to a SMTP server at that IP.


i tested this by sending a test email to myself via my
f12.n3634.z1.binkp.net address... i sent one through my ISP and their SMTP
mailer connected directly to my perimeter SMTP mailer to deliver the test
message... i sent another one through gmail... it also looked up my address
on binkp.net and connected directly to my perimeter SMTP server for
delivery...

now here's where it gets tricky over here... on my perimeter firewall, i
run a mod that provides a SMTP server... this is my perimeter SMTP server
as noted above... it is inbound only and it scans and validates all inbound
emails before they are bounced or sent to one of my three internal SMTP
servers... i watched the messages being validated on one of my internal
SMTP servers but the perimeter SMTP server didn't know the destination
address was valid for one of the SMTP servers on this site so it rejected
both test messages... i have some configuring to do :LOL:

i have not (yet) seen a bounce from the test message i sent to ben's
address above... it might take a while to bounce if that's what it is going
to do... i don't know if ben has a SMTP server or if he has one that knows
his address is also f68.n393.z1.binkp.net in addition to any other domain
addresses he has...

this test has actually been quite informative O:)


!ALSO! in light of this testing, i fully retract my previous statement
about the address being invalid... It.Is.Valid... whether or not there is a
SMTP server at the IP returned by binkp.net is another matter... if that
SMTP server will accept inbound emails addressed to that binkp.net address
is another 2nd matter to deal with...



FWIW: above i say that i have some configuring to do... yeah, on three of
the SMTP servers living here... adding an ""alias"" on
two of them and routing on the third... whew... at least a quick mental
rundown seems to point to that being what needs done... hehahahahehe...


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