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to: Ellen K.
from: Adam
date: 2006-12-11 00:51:36
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Ellen K. wrote:
> Do you have any quotes from Catholic priests specifically supporting the
> terrorist acts committed by the IRA?  Or stating that the IRA's
> activities represented a war against Protestantism?
>

Yes. Numerous.

Seminaries often hid IRA men.

Adam

> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:51:08 +0000, Ad
>  wrote in message
> :
>
>> John Beckett wrote:
>>> Eeeww. Are you allowed to accurately describe islamists in today's PC
>>> world?
>>>
>>> Notice also Adam's reply - totally dodged the issue with some glib
>>> comment.
>>>
>> Bollox. I was simply pointing out the deep fallacy within your statement.
>>
>> You statement was basically almost entirely fallacious But hey pointing
>> out facts to true believers is always tricky.
>>
>> Your question was:
>>
>> "> Good points, but how about some other calculations?
>>> In a population of 1 million Christians living in a first world country,
>>> how many are likely to perform a terrorist act?
>>>
>>> How about if 1 million Muslims?"
>>
>> So suddenly it would seem that you are counting all terrorists from
>> "Christian countries" such as Ireland, Germany, Italy
etc. As being
>> "non-Christian terrorists" where terrorists from Muslim
countries e.g.
>> Palestinians fighting for a nationalist cause are "Muslim
Terrorists".
>>
>> Gee who's really the troll here.
>>
>> The IRA for example were given repeated help by the Catholic Church in
>> Ireland. But one presumes that in Beckett-land those were
"non-Christian
>> catholic priests" helping to hide "the boys".
>>
>> You're the one dodging & diving in part I suspect coz you realise that
>> proper discussion of your point was going to disprove your point thus
>> the trolling & std ad hominem rubbish.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> Ellen K.  wrote in message
>>> news::
>>>> I don't know who all the other groups are/were, but
"Anglo" and
>>>> "Christian" are not synonymous.  The Baader
Meinhof group were not
>>>> Christians and would probably be insulted if you called
them Christians,
>>>> in view of Marx' statement that religion is the opiate of
the masses.
>>>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to know whether they consider
>>>> themselves Christians, but everything I ever read about
them indicated
>>>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to e.g. agitating for the
>>>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>>>
>>>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists claim their acts
are religious
>>>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic clerics make statements
>>>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are rarely -- if ever
-- contradicted
>>>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts are what make the public
>>>> believe Islam is waging war on the non-Islamic world,
particularly when
>>>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>>>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>>> message :
>>>>
>>>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF, IPLO, INLA, ETA,
Baader Meinhof,
>>>>> Red Brigades etc?
>

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