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to: Adam
from: Ellen K.
date: 2006-12-10 20:35:52
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Ellen K. 

How many Shiite Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:50:49 +0000, Adam
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
message :

>Ellen K. wrote:
>> Kahane Chai is one organization.  It is outlawed by the state of Israel.
>> There are hundreds if not thousands of other Jewish organizations who
>> are on record as opposing its activities.
>>
>> Which Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>
>
>Oh lots. Saudi for one.
>
>Most of the Absolute sunni monarchies but esp the Saudi.
>
>Wave a hezbollah flag there & see how quickly the police turn up.
>
>Adam
>
>> How many Muslim organizations are on record as opposing their
>> activities?
>>
>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:57:34 +0000, Ad
>>  wrote in message
>> :
>>
>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>> I don't know who all the other groups are/were, but
"Anglo" and
>>>> "Christian" are not synonymous.  The Baader
Meinhof group were not
>>>> Christians and would probably be insulted if you called
them Christians,
>>>> in view of Marx' statement that religion is the opiate of
the masses.
>>>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to know whether they consider
>>>> themselves Christians, but everything I ever read about
them indicated
>>>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to e.g. agitating for the
>>>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>>>
>>>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists claim their acts
are religious
>>>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic clerics make statements
>>>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are rarely -- if ever
-- contradicted
>>>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts are what make the public
>>>> believe Islam is waging war on the non-Islamic world,
particularly when
>>>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>>>
>>> So then one could wonder about Zionists who are equally claiming a
>>> religious justification for their acts of violence. Meir Kahane was a
>>> Rabbi & Kahane Chai is classified as a Terrorist organization.
>>>
>>> Or as usual is that somehow "different" ?
>>>
>>> & then there is the BJP/RSS in India which has repeatedly
called for &
>>> achieved religious based massacres such as in Gujarat.
>>>
>>> Different again I suppose.
>>>
>>> People are people & all religions & people's have
their nutty violent wing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>>>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>>> message :
>>>>
>>>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF, IPLO, INLA, ETA,
Baader Meinhof,
>>>>> Red Brigades etc?
>>

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