From: "SDR" 

On Mar 26, 12:03 am, sdrodr...{at}sdrodrian.com wrote:
> On Mar 25, 8:10 pm, "Mirelle"  wrote:
>
>> sdrodr...{at}sdrodrian.com wrote:
>
>> Lies, and vilification, of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
>
>> Mirelle
>
> What?! No. No. This is what I wrote:
>
> BEGIN QUOTE
>
> What God Said To Mohammed:
>
> [Historical note, in passing:  Instead of
> writing His Message To Mankind into
> the heart and soul   of every man, woman,
> and child... God   found an illiterate brute
> out in the middle of the Arabian peninsula
> and gave to that most improbably clod
> the message He wanted passed on to mankind.
> And so, apparently, as recorded in the Quran
> and elsewhere]
>
>   ... Thus said God unto Mohammed:
>
> "Go and maim, butcher, and murder, steal
> and rob everything from everyone you kill.
> Knock off the heads of anyone who contradicts
> you, questions you, insults you, looks at you
> the wrong way--be it man, woman, child. Rape
> all the girls (and the boys too), no matter how
> old or young! Make war on the whole world
> that you may profit from its mounds of gold!
> Destroy all civilizations! Torture, exterminate
> entire peoples! Extinguish the light of human
> knowledge from the world! Suffocate all hopes
> of individual freedom! And, of course, pass on
> the message that I am the only God, and you
> are my messanger. Ah ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!" *
>
> S DRodrian
> http://poems.sdrodrian.com
> http://physics.sdrodrian.com
> http://music.sdrodrian.com
> http://mp3.sdrodrian.com
>
> * [this is a summary of the "holy" Qu'ran]
>    And, of course, Mohammed the brute did
>    all this very faithfully indeed [as recorded
>    by Muslims themselves, who are still doing
>    the same to this day].
>
> END QUOTE
>
> SEE:    http://islamisbad.com
>
> As you can see for yourself, EVERYTHING
> I wrote was the truth. If you have spotted
> the least falsehood in anything I wrote (above)
> please let me know and I will correct it   *
> immediately. That is a solemn promise,
>
> S DRodrian
> http://poems.sdrodrian.com
> http://physics.sdrodrian.com
> http://music.sdrodrian.com
> http://mp3.sdrodrian.com
>
> * I still prefer Moe to your Moo, though.

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s...{at}sdrodrian.com (S D Rodrian) wrote in message
...

>>> It is much more accurate to say that the Muslims STOLE
>>> the scientific databases of the peoples they conquered
>>> (since they originally were in reality, mostly illiterate
>>> Arab nomads)

>>  TYPICAL HINDU LIES.

Apparently you believe that
simply because I cite the horrors
that Arabs/Muslims visited upon
the Hindus (and Islam's genocides
and theft of the treasures of Hindu civilization) that therefore
I must be Hindu! This is most
amusing, as it betrays you as a
person who could not imagine
someone moral/ethical enough to
denounce crimes committed against
someone other than himself!
[Don't fret, yours is a very common flaw in many human beings.]

No: I am not Hindu. It's simply
that the Islamic genocide of
Hindus is without question the
worst crime against humanity on
record, that's all. Please keep
this in mind in the future.

In any case, to remedy my
unbalanced approach, and to help
satisfy your thirst for a more
comprehensive historical view,
here's the reprint of a letter
sent to Carly Fiorina, CEO of
Hewlett Packard Corporation,
in response to a speech given by
her on September 26, 2001
which you can find at this url:

www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.htm

              http://islamisbad.com

S D Rodrian
poems.sdrodrian.com
physics.sdrodrian.com

              What Arab Civilization?

November 7, 2001
Carly Fiorina
Hewlett-Packard
3000 Hanover Street
Palo Alto, CA 94304-1185

Dear Madame Fiorina:

It is with great interest that I read your speech delivered on September
26, 2001, titled "Technology, Business and Our way of Life: What's
Next" [sic]. I was particularly interested in the story you told at
the end of your speech, about the Arab/Muslim civilization.

As an Assyrian, a non-Arab, Christian native of the Middle East, whose
ancestors reach back to 5000 B.C., I wish to clarify some points you made
in this little story, and to alert you to the dangers of unwittingly being
drawn into the Arabist/Islamist ideology, which seeks to assimilate all
cultures and religions into the Arab/Islamic fold.

I know you are a very busy woman, but please find ten minutes to read what
follows, as it is a perspective that you will not likely get from anywhere
else. I will answer some of the specific points you made in your speech,
then conclude with a brief perspective on this Arabist/Islamist ideology.

Arabs and Muslims appeared on the world scene in 630 A.D., when the armies
of Muhammad began their conquest of the Middle East. We should be very
clear that this was a military conquest, not a missionary enterprise, and
through the use of force, authorized by a declaration of a Jihad against
infidels, Arabs/Muslims were able to forcibly convert and assimilate
non-Arabs and non-Mulsims into their fold. Very few indigenous communities
of the Middle East survived this -- primarily Assyrians, Jews, Armenians
and Coptics (of Egypt).

Having conquered the Middle East, Arabs placed these communities under a
Dhimmi (see the book Dhimmi, by Bat Ye'Or) system of governance, where the
communities were allowed to rule themselves as religious minorities
(Christians, Jews and Zoroastrian). These communities had to pay a tax
(called a Jizzya in Arabic) that was, in effect, a penalty for being
non-Muslim, and that was typically 80% in times of tolerance and up to 150%
in times of oppression. This tax forced many of these communities to
convert to Islam, as it was designed to do.

You state, "its architects designed buildings that defied
gravity." I am not sure what you are referring to, but if you are
referring to domes and arches, the fundamental architectural breakthrough
of using a parabolic shape instead of a spherical shape for these
structures was made by the Assyrians more than 1300 years earlier, as
evidenced by their archaeological record.

You state, "its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that
would enable the building of computers, and the creation of
encryption." The fundamental basis of modern mathematics had been laid
down not hundreds but thousands of years before by Assyrians and
Babylonians, who already knew of the concept of zero, of the Pythagorean
Theorem, and of many, many other developments expropriated by Arabs/Muslims
(see History of Babylonian Mathematics, Neugebauer).

You state, "its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures
for disease." The overwhelming majority of these doctors (99%) were
Assyrians. In the fourth, fifth, and sixth centuries Assyrians began a
systematic translation of the Greek body of knowledge into Assyrian. At
first they concentrated on the religious works but then quickly moved to
science, philosophy and medicine. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Galen, and
many others were translated into Assyrian, and from Assyrian into Arabic.
It is these Arabic translations which the Moors brought with them into
Spain, and which the Spaniards translated into Latin and spread throughout
Europe, thus igniting the European Renaissance.

By the sixth century A.D., Assyrians had begun exporting back to Byzantia
their own works on science, philosophy and medicine. In the field of
medicine, the Bakhteesho Assyrian family produced nine generations of
physicians, and founded the great medical school at Gundeshapur (Iran).
Also in the area of medicine, (the Assyrian) Hunayn ibn-Ishaq's textbook on
ophthalmology, written in 950 A.D., remained the authoritative source on
the subject until 1800 A.D.

In the area of philosophy, the Assyrian philosopher Job of Edessa developed
a physical theory of the universe, in the Assyrian language, that rivaled
Aristotle's theory, and that sought to replace matter with forces (a theory
that anticipated some ideas in quantum mechanics, such as the spontaneous
creation and destruction of matter that occurs in the quantum vacuum).

One of the greatest Assyrian achievements of the fourth century was the
founding of the first university in the world, the School of Nisibis, which
had three departments, theology, philosophy and medicine, and which became
a magnet and center of intellectual development in the Middle East. The
statutes of the School of Nisibis, which have been preserved, later became
the model upon which the first Italian university was based (see The
Statutes of the School of Nisibis, by Arthur Voobus).

When Arabs and Islam swept through the Middle East in 630 A.D., they
encountered 600 years of Assyrian Christian civilization, with a rich
heritage, a highly developed culture, and advanced learning institutions.
It is this civilization that became the foundation of the Arab
civilization.

You state, "Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars,
and paved the way for space travel and exploration." This is a bit
melodramatic. In fact, the astronomers you refer to were not Arabs but
Chaldeans and Babylonians (of present day south-Iraq), who for millennia
were known as astronomers and astrologers, and who were forcibly Arabized
and Islamized -- so rapidly that by 750 A.D. they had disappeared
completely.

You state, "its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of
courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before
them were too steeped in fear to think of such things." There is very
little literature in the Arabic language that comes from this period you
are referring to (the Koran is the only significant piece of literature),
whereas the literary output of the Assyrians and Jews was vast. The third
largest corpus of Christian writing, after Latin and Greek, is by the
Assyrians in the Assyrian language (also called Syriac); see:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14408a.htm

You state, "when other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization
thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out
knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge
alive, and passed it on to others." This is a very important issue you
raise, and it goes to the heart of the matter of what Arab/Islamic
civilization represents. I reviewed a book

http://www.aina.org/aol/peter/greek.htm

titled How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs, in which the author lists the
significant translators and interpreters of Greek science. Of the 22
scholars listed, 20 were Assyrians, 1 was Persian and 1 an Arab. I state at
the end of my review: "The salient conclusion which can be drawn from
O'Leary's book is that Assyrians played a significant role in the shaping
of the Islamic world via the Greek corpus of knowledge. If this is so, one
must then ask the question, what happened to the Christian communities
which made them lose this great intellectual enterprise which they had
established. One can ask this same question of the Arabs. Sadly, O'Leary's
book does not answer this question, and we must look elsewhere for the
answer." I did not answer this question I posed in the review because
it was not the place to answer it, but the answer is very clear, the
Christian Assyrian community was drained of its population through forced
conversion to Islam (by the Jizzya), and once the community had dwindled
below a critical threshold, it ceased producing the scholars that were the
intellectual driving force of the Islamic civilization, and that is when
the so called "Golden Age of Islam" came to an end (about 850
A.D.).

Islam the religion itself was significantly molded by Assyrians and Jews
(see Nestorian Influence on Islam and Hagarism: the Making of the Islamic
World).

Arab/Islamic civilization is not a progressive force, it is a regressive
force; it does not give impetus, it retards. The great civilization you
describe was not an Arab/Muslim accomplishment, it was an Assyrian
accomplishment that Arabs expropriated and subsequently lost when they
drained, through the forced conversion of Assyrians to Islam, the source of
the intellectual vitality that propelled it. What other Arab/Muslim
civilization has risen since? What other Arab/Muslim successes can we cite?

You state, "and perhaps we can learn a lesson from his [Suleiman]
example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was
leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse
population that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish
traditions."

In fact, the Ottomans were extremely oppressive to non-Muslims. For
example, young Christian boys were forcefully taken from their families,
usually at the age of 8-10, and inducted into the Janissaries, (yeniceri in
Turkish) where they were Islamized and made to fight for the Ottoman state.
What literary, artistic or scientific achievements of the Ottomans can we
point to? We can, on the other hand, point to the genocide of 750,000
Assyrians, 1.5 million Armenians and 400,000 Greeks in World War One by the
Kemalist "Young Turk" government. This is the true face of Islam.

Arabs/Muslims are engaged in an explicit campaign of destruction and
expropriation of cultures and communities, identities and ideas. Wherever
Arab/Muslim civilization encounters a non-Arab/Muslim one, it attempts to
destroy it (as the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan were destroyed, as
Persepolis was destroyed by the Ayotollah Khomenie). This is a pattern that
has been recurring since the advent of Islam, 1400 years ago, and is amply
substantiated by the historical record. If the "foreign" culture
cannot be destroyed, then it is expropriated, and revisionist historians
claim that it is and was Arab, as is the case of most of the Arab
"accomplishments" you cited in your speech. For example, Arab
history texts in the Middle East teach that Assyrians were Arabs, a fact
that no reputable scholar would assert, and that no living Assyrian would
accept. Assyrians first settled Nineveh, one of the major Assyrian cities,
in 5000 B.C., which is 5630 years before Arabs came into that area. Even
the word 'Arab' is an Assyrian word, meaning "Westerner" (the
first written reference to Arabs was by the Assyrian King Sennacherib, 800
B.C., in which he tells of conquering the "ma'rabayeh" --
Westerners. See The Might That Was Assyria, by H. W. F. Saggs).

Even in America this Arabization policy

http://aina.org/releases/2001/arabization.htm

continues. On October 27th a coalition of seven Assyrian and Maronite
organizations sent an official letter

http://www.aina.org/releases/2001/caamletter.htm

to the Arab American Institute asking it to stop identifying Assyrians and
Maronites as Arabs, which it had been deliberately doing.

There are minorities and nations struggling for survival in the Arab/Muslim
ocean of the Middle East and Africa (Assyrians, Armenians, Coptics, Jews,
southern Sudanese, Ethiopians, Nigerians...), and we must be very sensitive
not to unwittingly and inadvertently support Islamic fascism and Arab
Imperialism, with their attempts to wipe out all other cultures, religions
and civilizations. It is incumbent upon each one of us to do our homework
and research when making statements and speeches about these sensitive
matters.

I hope you found this information enlightening. For more information, refer
to the web links below. You may contact me at
k...{at}ninevehsoft.com for further questions.

Thank you for your consideration.

Peter BetBasoo

Web resources:

Brief History of Assyrians:
http://www.aina.org/aol/peter/brief.htm

Assyrian International News Agency: http://www.aina.org/

Assyrian American National Federation: http://www.aanf.org/

Assyrian Academic Society:
http://www.aas.net/

Zinda Magazine:
http://www.zindamagazine.com/

Beth Suryoyo:
http://www.bethsuryoyo.com/

Nineveh Online:
http://www.nineveh.com/

World Maronite Union:
http://www.maroniteunion.org/

Maronite Research Council:
http://plaza.powersurfr.com/maronites

World Lebanese Organization:
http://www.wlo-usa.org/

Coptic Web:
http://www.copticmail.com/

thanks: Peter BetBasoo (k...{at}ninevehsoft.com)

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On Feb 26, 10:59 pm, Jim  wrote:
> sdrodr...{at}sdrodrian.com wrote:
>> The So-Called "Clash of Civilizations" ...
>
>>   "Nowhere in the world are Christians or Jews trying
>>   to kill Muslims simply because they are Muslims. But
>>   everywhere in the world Muslims are trying to kill
>>   Christians and Jews (and other non-Muslims) simply
>>   and solely because they are non-Muslims."
>
>> Now THAT is the crux of the problem defining the
>> so-called "clash of civilizations" today. And if you
>> don't recognize it, and try to solve it, it will
>> continue until we do recognize it and solve it.
>
>> S DRodrian
>>http://poems.sdrodrian.com
>>http://physics.sdrodrian.com
>>http://music.sdrodrian.com
>>http://mp3.sdrodrian.com
>
> Haven't read much history, have you?

No: I got it wholesale from the Muslims: Everybody Muslim boasts of it.
Their holy books call for it (and because Muslims are not free to be or not
to be Muslims ON PAIN OF DEATH), no matter what a Muslim may say to a
non-Muslim (NOTE: the Koran admonishes Muslims never to permit non-Muslins
to read it because... it is a plan for the military conquest of all
non-Muslims--Surprise!)... it is the mantra they are taught from DAY ONE:
That non-Muslims are THE ENEMY ... not to be pitied as Christians think of
non-Christians, or to be loved as some Indian sects admonish, but to be
SLAUGHTERED (unless they convert, of course, and join them in the hunt of
non-Muslims).

And, pray tell, what does one do with THE ENEMY?

Well, the Koran is very specific about this (because it assumes Muslims
will have been turned into brainless morons by their religion): Slaughter
them if they do not convert (except for Jews and Christians who are
"permitted" to live if they pay a tax (which is, a
ransom--"blackmail" is such a nasty word) of between 30 to 90
percent annually, as specified in Sharia (Islamic law)). This is why the
European Imperialists still found some handful of impoverished Jews and
Christians in Islamic countries when they were competing for empire.

Moronover, [sic] the Koran also specifies that Muslims are to slaughter
non-Muslims ONLY as long as they are more powerful militarily (which is why
the large and ancient Jewish communities Mohammed found in Mecca and in
Medina he slaughtered so brutally that even his butchering followers
admonished him on it and he relented, agreeing to not slaughter any child
that did not yet have pubic hair but instead forcing the lad to become a
Muslim.

However, the Koran (the plan composed and set down in writing by Mu hammed)
insists: If THE ENEMY is militarily stronger than you, then agree to any
convenient truce while you strengthen yourself (which is why Hamas is
asking Israel for an "extended truce" and why Iran is asking The
Stoopid West for continued
& continued & continued negotiations and continued
diplomacy--because they are following the plan ... that is, the Koran,
which if any of the idiots who rule Europe and America would simply READ
everything would be revealed to even their idiotic eyes--but, you couldn't
get George Bush to read a "Dick & Jane" first reader, let
along the fucking Koran).

 > Which muslim country has occupied a non
 > muslim country?

ALL countries now Islamic (with the exception of Indonesia and environs,
which were convinced to become Muslim by mullahs who, after Krakatoa
exploded told them it was God's punishment for not being Muslims, and the
poor saps bought it--and, once Muslim, Muslims make sure you don't go back
with very specific laws that if any Muslims changes his religion he/she is
to be SLAUGHTERED by anybody at hand including his/her children or
parents)... ALL countries now Muslim were conquered by their Muslim
neighbors: ALL, except India which, after the greatest carnage/genocide in
human history (with some places in India/Pakistan/ Afghanistan &
environs boasting of as many as 85 million non-Muslims butchered)... proved
too large: After the slaughter of 100s of millions of Hindus and other poor
souls who were all basically peacefully resigned
philosophically/religiously to whatever fate the world has to offer... rose
up and again became belligerent enough to fight back and stop the Islamic
slaughter/genocide before the British showed up there.

... are you beginning to gleam why SLAUGHTER is a quality/condition so
inseparable from Muslims/Islam?

If not, then perhaps you should do a little research on all of this
(provided, of course, you have already gone thought that "Dick &
Jane" first reader):

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.afghanistan/msg/ee344ffc53580775?dmo
de=source&hl=en
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/index.html

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/msg/1138bfa1c4479b79?&hl=en&q=rod
rian+Hewlett+Packard+Islam
from:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/browse_frm/thread/41ffed2fd4e3c90
5/f27695a8378e5591?lnk=st&q=rodrian+Hewlett+Packard+Islam&rnum=1&hl=en#f27695a8
378e5591

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?titleArmenian_Genocide

http://www.hindubooks.org/sudheer_birodkar/india_contribution/maths.html

http://answering-islam.org/index.html

Or, you could do a little research for yourself.

Or just simply read The Koran:
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/
http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=HolKora.sgm&images=images/m
odeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=all

And some of the controversies about it: http://www.quran.org/19quest.htm

Then, when you watch Muslims on your TV lying through their teeth to the
American public you at least will know enough to laugh (or cry when you
note that no one will challenge their outrageous/deadly lies).

BEGIN QUOTE:

a...{at}microsith.com (sifu) wrote:

 > Is that why the Jews enoyed the
 > hositality of the Islamic states in
 > Spain for 800 years and also in
 > Jerusalem. You have quoted many ayats.
 > However YOU are NOT a scholar of Islam.
 > You have not read the letter
 > signed by Hadrat Umar Ibn al Kathab,
 > the second Caliph of Islam who,
 > based on the teachings of the Holy
 > Prophet Muhammad sallah alaiwassalam,
 > let ALL people go about their faith
 > and business as usual.

Nor have I read Caliph el Loko's
call for muslims to embrace love and compassion for all non-muslims. But
I'm sure it exists--So what? In what way does it help the victim of a
murder that the whole world love him but
one?!?! It's futile for me to point out to you, sir, that it is not the
Koran's calls for love and peace that have butchered 100s of millions of
human beings in the course of the
Islamic genocide against non-muslims (which is going on to this day, as
there are tribes in Kashmere which are
on the brink of extinction at the hands of the muslims)... it is the
Koran's calls for terrorism and genocide that have moved the "pious
Muslims" to those inhuman actions.

The Koran may be mere words, sir. But what cannot be AND OUGHT NEVER be
ignored is the fact that no muslim will condemn even the most egregiously
barbaric and savage portions of the Koran! (Some of which you can read
for yourself at the end of this post.) Will you? No you will not. You
will instead cite those utterly irrelevant calls for love and the brotherhood
of men which have never caused anybody any trouble in the whole sorry
history of Islam's existence. The true terror of Islam is indeed in the
terror of even the most decent-minded muslim to stand up for decency. That
says all there is to say about the nature of Islam, sir. And no one need be
any sort of scholar to understand that gut-real truth.

 > While Europe was living in
 > the Dark Ages in mud
 > huts Cordoba, the Capital of Muslim
 > Spain the citizens were living in
 > a city with street lighting, sewage
 > systems, and warm water. The first
 > university in Europe was made
 > by Muslims in Andalucia.

No doubt, no doubt it must have
been Paradise on earth... living under the muslims in Spain. So all the
more perplexing then that the Spaniards
themselves invested 500 brutal bloody years of revolution and war to rid
themselves of their muslim benefactors, eh?! Me, I don't even put up an
argument if my pizza is delivered
cold and gummy.

 > People who
 > wanted to learn about science had
 > to know Arabic because the Muslims
 > were the most highly educated. They
 > made great advances in science, in
 > medicine, in astrology, physics,
 > maths, recovered and translated the
 > knowledge of the Romans and Greeks
 > which had been destroyed by the
 > Europeans.

What a croc, sir! That is one of the most gigantic "big lies" of history:

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/browse_frm/thread/41ffed2fd4e3c90
5/f27695a8378e5591?lnk=st&q=rodrian+Hewlett+Packard+Islam&rnum=1&hl=en#f27695a8
378e5591

For your edification ALL that so-called "Islamic" science is
Greek science. The fall of the Roman Empire and the overrun of Europe by
barbarians broke the thread of history there, and the muslims' only (real)
contribution is that somehow they managed to avoid
using what remained of ancient greek civilization as firewood. Check your
history again and you will discover that there was no significant advance
in science since the fall of the Roman empire and the renaissance (even
almost unto the rise of the British one and the subsequent beginnings of
the Industrial Revolution, yesterday).

What muslim "scholars" added (mostly in practical medicine, because of
their lack of scruples about cutting up people, living or dead) can be
summed up in the same manner one
sums up their great Islamic achievements in architecture: They copied, sir,
they copied. The Arab muslims were utterly illiterate barbarians just out
of the desert, and their only original
achievement is the camel. Throughout the Islamic conquest, what the Islamic
barbarians did not destroy (the same way they recently destroyed the great
Buddahs in Afghanistan), they shamelessly converted into Islamic mosque
(like the Hagia Sophia Church in Constantinople, now a mosque) after which
you saw
the sprouting of "similar" mosques
elsewhere. Even the great Taj Mahal in India is really an ancient Hindu
temple to Shiva which the muslims have desecrated
just as they desecrated every Christian Church they got hold of, and even
the holiest ground in the promised land, the Temple of The Lord at
Jerusalem
originally built by Solomon. ALL the wealth muslims have ever owned they
have stolen from the people who originated that wealth until the coming of
petroleum. And ALL the splendor of
Islamic "civilization" has been the enjoyment by the muslims of
all they managed to steal from their rightful owners. They
are, have always been, and ever will be ignorant and blind to true
civilization as long as they are under the unforgiving psychological
enslavement of Islam. Once the petroleum runs out, the Arabs will be
swallowed up by their brutal culture right back into the desert from which
they came, for, until the coming of petroleum there NEVER was a single
moment in all of Islamic history when their "greatness" was not
stolen from somebody else... no matter what any Hollywood movie says. SEE:

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html

 > In Islam a person is only allowed to attack a soldier and not
 > civilians.

Well, you should tell that to the
massacred at the twin towers. You
should tell that to the 300,000
Arminiam massacred. You should tell that to the countless millions and
millions of Hindus and others massacred
by the muslims. I'm sure it will make them rest better in their graves,
all those women and children soldiers.

http://www.cilicia.com/armo10.html

 > Your knowledge of Islam is futile.

My knowledge of Islam is enough. My knowledge of muslims and their crimes
is already too much to bear. I wish the world had never heard of the
bastards. And I am certain I am not the only one who wishes that. And I,
for one, do not need to know the
color of my murderer's underwear.
I know this:

If Islam is the ultimate major
source of terrorism in today's
world, and it absolutely is (or
just take the Islamic terrorists
themselves at their word when
they all cite the Koran as their
marching orders)... then it's better that the whole world start
looking into the reason why Islam
is the greatest source of evil
in the world, instead of pretending its sulfuring festering
open wound is a lovely blue pool
from which "for some inexplicable
reason" pus seems to be oozing
from it on a regular basis: For
centuries the world thought
disease was caused by magic, and it was not until the world finally
confronted the real cause of
disease that the world has finally
begun to control pestilence.

I tell you this: Not until Islamic
"scholars" themselves begin to
confront the evil of Islam will that evil begin to come under
control. And it's for the benefit of muslims themselves that this
ought to be done, for the Islamic
world is STILL in the grips of a
savage and brutal dark ages  which
far surpasses the European Dark
Ages which the West put behind it
CENTURIES AGO. The saving grace
of the Christian world has, ever
since the European Dark Ages, been
that there are so many Christian
sects (preventing any one of them
from brainwashing Europeans with
a lot of religious gibberish). And
what the Islamic world is in dire
need of is its own Martin Luthers
to demand a frank and open discussion among muslims of those portions
of the Koran which are self-evidently more Satanic than sacred:

   [8.12] When your Lord revealed
   to the angels: I am with you,
   therefore make firm those who
   believe.

          I will cast terror into
   the hearts of those who disbelieve.
   Therefore strike off their
   heads and strike off every fingertip
   of them.

Meaning, pure and simple, and without any apologies: Terrorize non-muslims
to your heart's delight. Make it as gruesome as you care to make it. And
throughout the history of the Islamic conquest... it has been spectacularly
gruesome, as uncounted millions of
innocents have been butchered, not by a handful of renegade
fundamentalists, but by the full power of the muslim states and potentates.
And now you
might be starting to get an inkling of the desperation with which the
muslim- besieged Christian communities of the holy land begged help from
their
European brethren before the coming of the historical first crusades.

   Sahih Muslim
   Book 019, Number 4366:
   It has been narrated by 'Umar b.
   al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger
   of Allah (may peace be upon him)
   say: I will expel the Jews and
   Christians from the Arabian Peninsula
   and will not leave any but Muslim.

Who among you can really believe
that a pious person can trust that
what his "bible" says is true, and yet that he can somehow ignore the
command (above)... without
doubting his faith and commitment?! It is no coincidence that the terrorists
involved in the September 11 massacre are all reported by their family and
neighbors as being exceptionally
pious and devoted believers, "quiet and honest" persons who spent
their days in meditation at the local mosques. It's such a universal
picture
of them that the FBI could have
predicted which muslims would turn the deadliest terrorists just from
seeing which of them proved the most pious and quiet and devoted, honest
and
full of Islamic humility and gentility.

   Sahih Muslim
   The Book of Faith (Kitab Al-Iman)
   Book 001, Number 0033:
   It has been narrated on the authority
   of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the
   Messenger of Allah said: I have
   been commanded to fight against people
   till they testify that there is no god
   but Allah, that Muhammad is the
   messenger of Allah, and they establish
   prayer, and pay Zakat and if they
   do it, their blood and property are
   guaranteed protection on mybehalf
   except when justified by law,
   and their affairs rest with Allah.

The above verse from the Koran
explicitly orders that muslims respect the lives and properties ONLY of
muslims (those who "testify," or "Allah's Witnesses,"
so to speak). This implies one truly monstrous suggestion...
that the lives and properties of non- muslims are forfeit de facto. And
throughout history muslim conquerors and criminals have reaped untold
treasures from non-muslims, no less than millions and millions of innocent
lives whose sole "crime" was that they lived within reach of
muslims and
owned properties worth stealing even at the cost of all their lives.

   [9.29] Fight those who do not
   believe in Allah, nor in the latter day,
   nor do they prohibit what Allah
   and His Apostle have prohibited, nor
   follow the religion of truth, out of
   those who have been given the Book,
   until they pay the tax in acknowledgment
   of superiority and they are in
   a state of subjection.

The Koran does not say, "Jews and
Christians are your equal, so respect and honor them as equal."
Instead it explicitly says (above) that they (the Jews and the Christians)
are to be
forced to acknowledge the superiority of Islam and that they (Jews and
Christians) are in a state of subjection. Need anyone say anything more on
why it is that the Saudis and others will only permit near them non-muslims
who are willing to give their lives to save theirs? Need anyone explain why
Israel will NEVER have borders which are secured by international or local
treaties?

   [9.123] O you who believe! fight
   those of the unbelievers who are near
   to you and let them find in you
   hardness; and know that Allah is with
   those who guard (against evil).

It is a religious duty for all pious muslims to fight their non-muslim
neighbors. And it is only the secular Islamic tyrants who have suppressed
this religious duty, in Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, and the rest of them (all
the dear friends and allies of George Bush and company). But how long do
you imagine dictators of any sort last? Do you really believe that the
"aspirations" of native populations can be denied for ever? Well, that's
what the West has staked its future on!

   [4.74] Therefore let those fight in
   the way of Allah, who sell this
   world's life for the hereafter; and
   whoever fights in the way of Allah,
   then be he slain or be he victorious,
   We shall grant him a mighty reward.

What general would not wish to
command men pious enough to believe what their "bible" tells them
(above)... that if they die in the battle (and
what muslim general fights a battle which isn't "in the way of
Allah?!") they shall be rewarded in the afterlife for their count of
enemy corpses?!

   From the Sunnah of the Prophet
   (the "other leg" of the Koran):
   [9:5] But when the forbidden
   months are past, then fight
   and slay the Pagans wherever
   ye find them, and seize them,
   beleaguer them, and lie in wait
   for them in every stratagem

Since time immemorial muslims have
been urged by verses like the one
above into merciless acts of terror against non-muslims. And frankly
today's Islamic acts of terror pale in comparison with historical ones
in which literally MILLIONS of non- muslims were slaughtered wholesale
and their lands and properties looted as the reward for the murderers.
Even the bloody Twentieth Century
began with the muslim genocide of
the Armenian christians at the hands of the muslim Turks.

Want to know more? SEE:

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/

I know there are those of you out there who will scoff, asserting that
nobody "here" takes the Bible seriously now. That's true. Nobody NOW, in
today's Western secular humanistic world takes the Bible seriously (outside
a few pathetic christian fundamentalists), but back in the European Dark
Ages... who did not take the Bible to be absolutely and literally the
sacred word and holy commands of
God? Well, the point IS that the Islamic world is NOT a secular humanistic
one but one which is STILL as deeply mired in its Dark Ages as the West was
centuries ago during its own Dark Ages. It was nothing back then for
Europeans to burn innocent lonely old ladies
as witches, and it's nothing today for even the most "respectable" and
"decent and honest" and "most admired (by the West)"
muslims to stone people to death, to cut off the hands of bicycle thieves,
and to carry out every
other sort of unimaginably unspeakable barbarities as the "brightest
light of Islamic civilization" muslims can cite. The fact that the
Egyptian and
Turkish dictators do not do this is "proof" in the eyes of their
more pious native populations that they are
corrupt puppets of the infidel West.

It is not some secular stubborn gang of diehards that simply refuse
to accept peace with Israel... it is the explicit demands written in
the Koran which demand the removal
of non-muslims from the Hebrews's
promised land, as well as explicitly calling for terrorism against
non-muslims: THAT is never going
to be "fixed" by ignoring that such facts are real! These
"sacred" demands are part of the muslim believers'
core of religious duty, and they shall remain there as they have
remained to this day. And what does it matter if a few opportunists
and criminals like the dictators who have seized power in so many
Islamic countries have the ability to keep their states from obeying
the dictums of the Koran? Eventually they will be overthrown by pious
muslims who, like Khomenei in Iran
will immediately order their states into massive religious wars... as they
are explicitly commanded to do
in the Koran (which see) be they cold or hot wars. And the West is
being foolish to the core in arming the armies of these secular tyrants

[The Iraq today George W. Bush is actually arming the very army American
will eventually have to fight! Yes: The Iraqi Army is already in the hands
of Shi'ite militia people who have expressedly sworn that they are ready to
join the Iranian Army in its war against America. What George Bush is still
doing in Iraq I don't know!]

(in the vain hope perhaps that they can prevent their own native Islamic
populations from establishing Islamic republics maybe?), ultimately only
to see such Islamic republics use
those very same West-supplied weapons turned against them, or simply
against innocent populations whose sole
"crime" is that they happen to be the muslims' closest neighbors.

That, the West's self-defeating attitude in dealing with muslim states
and muslim populations, no less than their chevalier attitude with regard
to its (the West's) dependence on
Gulf petroleum... has mitigated the muslim world's inability to compete in
the modern world. For the muslim world can never escape its Dark Ages on
its own: Modernity is the direct result of the free flow of information,
and Islam depends for its survival
on maintaining muslim populations
ignorant of just how bad they have it. This absolute incompatibility
between modernity and Islam will (the minute the oil runs out) throw the
Arabs back into the REAL dark ages again (it
shall be, for muslims, like waking from a glimpse of Paradise, and finding
themselves once again in Hell): And the only thing the West really has
anything to worry about is the possibility that nuclear technology has not
been sold to muslims with dark ages mentalities and frames of mind. Ooops,
too late: Pakistan, remember? And,
perhaps Iran as well... who knows?

 > The picture of the Muslim soldier
 > advancing with a sword in onehand
 > and the Qur'an in the other is quite false.

I tend to believe the testimony
of millions of the victims
of Islamic conquest and genocide.
I tend to believe the Koran
when it itself says:

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy
Lord inspired the angels (with the
message): "I am with you: give
firmness to the believers, I will
instill terror into the hearts of
the unbelievers, Smite ye above
their necks and smite all their
finger tips of them."

In the above verse the great
prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step by step instructions on how
to torture and kill the unbelievers if they don't follow Islam. He is
clearly instructing Muslims to
commit cold-blooded murder
in the name of religion.

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is
ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that
you hate a thing which is good
for you and it may happen that
you love a thing which is bad for
you. Allah knoweth, you knew not."

The above verse was stated by
Mohammed after his first terrorist
attack. He and his followers
mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed merchants at Nakhla
in 623 AD. The massacre came in
January, the sacred month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a
sacred month, when warfare and
violence is forbidden. Since this
barbaric criminal act was led and
sanctioned by the "great" prophet
Mohammed, we can conclude that
Islam's sacred activities include
loot and cold-blooded murder of
innocent individuals. The very
beginnings of Islam are stained
with the blood of innocents.

By stating the above verse,
Mohammed completely absolved himself from all blame for having murdered
innocents. The most insidious
and devilish implication of this
verse is that God is completely
justifying Mohammed's murder of
the innocent Meccans. The import
of this verse is that killing and
violence are JUSTIFIED for Muslims, because they are doing it by divine
ordinance! It is a religious
duty of every Muslim to murder
anyone who comes in the way of
Islam. Since it is also the duty of every Muslim to ensure that
the entire world is converted to
Islam by force if necessary, one
must directly conclude that it is
the religious duty of Muslims to
kill all those who are non-Muslim.
This conclusion is derived
directly from the supreme edict of
Allah, who admonishes that even
the Muslim who feels it is wrong
to kill, must murder in the name
of Allah, otherwise he is not a true Muslim. Over and above this,
Mohammed is hypocritically implying that warfare is hateful to him,
but he participated in it because
God ordained it.

3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for
any Prophet to have captives
until he hath made slaughter in
the land. You desire the lure of this world and Allah desires for you
the hereafter and Allah is Mighty,
Wise.. Now enjoy what you have
won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah. Lo! Allah is forgiving,
merciful."

This verse is in reference to the
prisoners that Mohammed held for
ransom after the battle of Badr.
This battle occurred on March 17,
623 AD. This is the month of Ramadan
-another sacred month for the
Muslims! In this battle, Mohammed
and his followers killed at
least 70 innocent merchants from
the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and
slaughtered several hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.

Here God the "Merciful" is saying
that all the non-believers deserve
to be killed! In addition, God is
conveniently commenting that whatever loot Mohammed has plundered is
"lawful and good" because it was done in service to God. So
murder, rape, plunder and destruction are
all perfectly legal with the Muslim God as long as they are done in
the name of Islam! Mohammed is
also insidiously making himself seem very kind for having spared the
lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them live so he could
ransom their lives for more money.
In today's world this is called
"taking hostages" and defines
"Terrorism" of the worst kind.

4. (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and
expose him to hell fire. And then
insert him in a chain whereof
the length is seventy cubits. Lo!
he used not to believe in God
the tremendous, and urged not
on the feeding of the wretched.
Therefore hath he no lover hear
this day nor any food save filth
which none but sinners eat."

The above verses from the Koran
prove that Muslims are specifically instructed not to tolerate unbelievers.
It directly states that
people who do not believe in
Mohammed and the Islamic God are to be tortured and murdered.. Not
only does this verse clearly implicate that unbelievers must be tortured
and killed, it goes on further to
state prescribed methods for
committing torture. The horrific acts mentioned above are in practice
even today in Islamic countries. In fact, in India, Muslims tortured
the Sikh Gurus and their families
exactly as prescribed by the Koran. For example, the Sikh guru Tegh
Bahadur was imprisoned in a cage
like a wild animal, when he refused to forsake his religion for Islam.
Three of his disciples were
murdered in front of his eyes. One
of them was Bhai Mati Das. He
was sawed alive into little pieces. The other was wrapped up in
cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala, the third one, was boiled alive
in a cauldron. Guru Tegh Bahadur
himself was brutally tortured and
killed in a similar fashion. One
wonders at the mercy of "The all
beneficent Allah" who enjoys
watching the roasted burnt flesh of hapless innocents falling off their bones.

5. (Koran 5: 33-34) "The only
reward of those who make war
upon Allah and His messenger
and strive after corruption in
the land will be that they will be
killed or crucified, or
have their hands and feet and
alternate sides cut off, or
will be expelled out of the land.
Such will be their degradation
in the world, and in the Hereafter
theirs will be an awful doom;
Save those who repent before ye
overpower them. For know that
Allah is forgiving, merciful."

6. (Koran 22: 19-22) "These
twain (the believers and the
disbelievers) are two opponents
who contend concerning their
Lord. But as for those who
disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid
will be poured down their heads.
Whereby that which is in their
bellies, and their skins too,
will be melted; And for them
are hooked rods of iron. Whenever,
in their anguish, they would go
forth from thence they are driven
back therein and (it is said unto
them): Taste the doom of burning."

7. (Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have
prepared for disbelievers chains,
yokes and a blazing fire."

The above verses clearly state
extreme terrorist activities, as
they contain nothing but detailed
recipes of horrific torture.
Cutting off the hands and feet of
individuals and then making
them walk and jump, pouring
boiling waters over their victims,
making them drink it, burning them
alive, inserting hot iron
rods into their bodies, dismemberment and disembowelment, genital
mutilation etc. are common Islamic
practices.

Koran 17:16-17 When we decide
to destroy a population, we send
a definite order to them who have
the good things in life and
yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them:
then we destroy them utterly. How
many generations have we
destroyed after Noah? And enough
is thy Lord to note and see
the Sins of his servants

Here Allah, the God of the Muslims
is clearly stating the exact
method that he adopts when he commits genocide of an entire POPULATION.
And why does Allah decide to destroy entire populations? Simply because
they don't believe in Allah and so
Allah will kill them all, to take
revenge. Next Allah is indulging in an unbelievable display of conceit. He
is actually BOASTING about how
many generations he has destroyed
after Noah. If Allah had a list of his merits, no doubt genocide of
numerous generations of people
would top his list. Allah enjoys
watching the annhilation of thousands of Non-Muslims at the hands of
his pious followers, the Muslims.

Koran 8:37 In order that Allah may
seperate the impure from the pure,
Put All the impure ones (Non-Muslim), one on top of the another in
a Heap and cast them into Hell. They will be the ones to have lost

The "All-Merciful Allah" is now
specifically instructing all "peace- loving Muslims" to heap up a
mountain of corpses of the non believers.
Of course, in order to do this holy task for Allah, the Muslim must
first go out and attack innocent Non- Muslims and massacre them so
that Allah's wishes are fulfilled. Allah seems to have an inexhaustible
thirst for the blood of innocents. Note that the reason given to
massacre non-believers is that
"Allah may seperate the Impure from the Pure". It has nothing to
do with self-defense or protection as
Muslims try to argue. The explicit
purpose for this heinous crime
is so that Allah can easily differentiate between the Muslims and
Non-Muslims. This way it becomes
a lot easier for Allah and his
angelic helpers to dump the heaps
of murdered Non-Muslims into Hellfire.

Koran 21:11 How many were the
populations we utterly destroyed because of their inequities, setting up in
their place other peoples

Again Allah is boasting about his
amazing exploits such as genocide
and displacement of innocent people. The justification for this crime
is that these innocent people had
"inequities". Apparently any
community which is not Muslim is
full of inequities by Islamic
definition and therefore fair game
for all pious Muslims to massacre
and plunder.

Koran 2:8-10 In their (Non-Muslims) hearts is a disease; and Allah
has increased their disease and
grievous is the penalty they will
incur, because they are false.

So Allah not only exhorts Muslims
to kill all the non-believers, he
also strikes down the surviving
ones with disease and pain. Any good Muslim must surely carry out their
beloved Allah's word. In fact
Allah's word seems to be very much
in effect in today's world. This
is why one sees pious, Allah-loving Muslims like Saddam Hussain nursing
factories that make weapons of
biological and chemical warfare. Saddam is complying perfectly with Allah's
wishes to the letter when he
manufactures strains of deadly
viruses to be unleashed on unsuspecting non-believers like the Israelis and
Americans. He has secured a place
in Islamic "Jannat" (Paradise) for
himself by following Allah's orders so religiously.

Koran 58:5 Those who resist Allah
and His Messenger will be crumbled
to dust, as were those before them: for we have already sent down
Clear Signs and the Unbelievers will have a humiliating Penalty

Those who resist Allah and His
Messenger" obviously refers to anyone who is not a Muslim. Therefore
every Non-Muslim must be crushed to death by the holy edict of Allah.
No doubt it was this very verse which must have served as a motivation
for those pious Muslims who bombed
the World Trade Center. Allah must
have been extremely pleased to watch all those innocent Non-Muslims
being crumbled to death.

Koran 44:43-50 Verily the Tree of
Zaqqum will be the food of the sinful. Like molten brass it will boil in
their insides, Like the boiling of
scalding water Seize Ye Him and
drag him into the midst of the blazing Fire Then pour over his head the
penalty of Boiling Water

Koran 2:39 Those who reject faith
(Islam) and belie our signs, They
shall be Companions of the Fire
and abide in it.

Koran 2:89-90 The Curse of Allah
is on those without faith (in Islam) Thus have they drawn wrath upon
wrath on themselves and humiliating is the punishment of those who
reject faith (Islam)

Koran 5:33 The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger
is: Execution or Crucifixion or
the cutting off of hands and feet
from opposite sides or exile from the land

Koran 9:35 On the day when Heat
will be produced out of the wealth in the Fire of Hell, and with it will be
branded their foreheads, their
sides and their backs- "This is
the treasure that ye buried for
yourselves, taste ye then the
treasures that ye buried."

If you do happen to pick up that
copy of the Koran as I mentioned,
don't expect your fate to improve,
unless you become a Muslim. Allah
doesn't want Non-believers to
understand the Koran. This is quite understandable on Allah's part,
because any self-respecting human
being who reads the Koran will
be revolted at the violence and
sadism espoused in it. Is it any
wonder that Muslims don't want
Non-Muslims to read or discuss
any part of the Koran? They are
afraid, that anyone who reads it
will soon realise the true nature
of Islam, which is genocide
sanctioned by religion. Here
Allah explains
that Non-Muslims will never be
allowed to understand the Koran:

Koran 17:46-47 And we put coverings over their hearts and minds, lest
they should understand the Koran,
and we put deafness in their ears;
when you commemorate your Lord
(Allah) and Him alone in the Koran

If a Non-Muslim cannot understand
the Koran, how is he/she expected
to convert to Islam on their own
accord? This is obviously an admission on Allah's part that people can be
converted to Islam only by violent
force, because he has ensured that
they cannot understand it via reading the Koran. For any Non-Muslim to
understand the Koran would be absolutely counterproductive to Islam.
Muslims have hidden the truth from Non-Muslims for ages. It is a fact that
the available English translations of the
Koran do not contain many of the
original Arabic Verses. Many particular verses were edited and changed
by Muslims, because they were just too violent and explicitly revealed
the brutal and barbaric nature of Islam.

The Koran is a psychological
manual that incites hatred and violence in the reader. It was specifically
designed for this very purpose, so that the Prophet Mohammed could
carry on his tradition of Genocide and Terrorism, long after his death.
The entire recorded history of Muslims is a testament to this fact.

Note: The Meaning of the Holy Quran by Abdullah Yusuf Ali has been
used to compose this article. From:

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/index.html

END QUOTE

 > You are stupid!

Yes, I am that. And embarrassingly asocial too. And impatient with all my
fellow stupid monkeys. And always eager to enlighten them. Therefore, let
me assure you:

Evil has never gone away on its own. Unconfronted, Islam will continue to
spew terrorism and genocide into a world unwilling and/or unable to face up
to Islam's insidious and unrepentant evil. Civilization is whistling past
[its] grave when it pretends that Islam is a religion like the other (real)
religions.

But think: The thing about religious fanatics is that THEY NEVER GO AGAINST
THEIR RELIGIOUS TEXTS.

All anybody has to do is but read THOSE TEXTS and he/she will know what
Hamas and Iran are planning to do... step by step by step by step: They CAN
NOT subvert in the slightest the plan laid down in/as their religious
texts: Learn the texts and you have learned their plan. And then you will
be invulnerable to the lies THE TEXT commands Muslims to tell non-Muslims
and the stratagems they are allowed and not allowed to follow in their
compliance with their plans' deadly demands. And, before it's tooo late.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://music.sdrodrian.com

Other quotes:

 > Annie Besant in 'The Life and Teachings
 > of Mohammad,' Madras, 1932.
 >
 > It is impossible for anyone who
> studies the life and character of the
 > great Prophet of Arabia, who knew
 > how he taught and how he lived, to
 > feel anything but reverence for
 > that mighty Prophet, one of the great
 > messengers of the Supreme. And
 > although in what I put to you I shall
 > say many things which may be
 > familiar to many, yet I myself feel,
 > whenever I reread them, a new
 > way of admiration, a new sense of
 > reverence for that mighty Arabian
 > teacher.

I wonder what Anne would have
said of these works by the "great
Prophet of Arabia" ....

1. Lets start with the "great" Mohammed himself, the founder of this
"fabulous" faith. Mohammed was married to Khadija Bibi, his employer
and 15 years his senior. At that time Mohammed was 25 years old. He
was Khadija Bibi's third husband.
Khadija Bibi was a widow when she
married Mohammed. For the first time in his life, Mohammed enjoyed
a luxurious life.

This shows the parasitic nature of
Mohammed who married his employer
so that he can live a rich life without putting in a single day's work.

2. Khadija Bibi died when Mohammed
was 49 years old. Between the ages
of 49 and 63 the "great prophet"
married at least 11 times.

This shows how he treated the
institution of marriage. For him, women were nothing but objects for sexual
fulfillment. Marrying at least
11 women in 14 years throws light
on his insatiable sexual appetite.
Read on about the "greatness" of
this prophet.

3. Mohammed's favourite wife was
Ayesha Bibi who was 6 years old when she was married to him.

Marrying a 6 year old baby clearly shows that Mohammed was not only
a womanizer but also a child molester.

4. Mohammed's adopted son Zayed was married to Zainab, daughter of
Jahsh. But one day the prophet "beheld in a loose undress, the beauty
of Zainab, and burst forth into an
ejaculation of devotion and desire. The servile, or greatful, freeman
(Zayed) understood the hint and
yielded without hesitation to the
love of the benefactor."

Mohammed was not satisfied with
his own overflowing harem and had to marry his son's wife. His son being a
devoted follower of the "great"
prophet was more than happy to
divorce his wife. What a great father- in-law Mohammed was, a model
for all Islamic father-in-laws!

Mohammed preached what he
practised. This is supported by the following verses from Quran and Hadiths.

Quotes from the "Holy" Quran on Women

II/223: Your women are a tilth
for you (to cultivate). So go to
your tilth as ye will...

IV/34: Men are in charge of women,
because Allah hath made the one
of them to excel the other.. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion,
admonish them and banish them
to beds apart, and scourge them.

IV/15: (For women) If any one of
your women is guilty of lewdness
...confine them until death claims them.

IV/16: (For Men) If two men among
you commit indecency (sodomy) punish them both. If they repent and mend
their ways, let them be. Allah
is forgiving and merciful.

As you can see, for women any sort
of sexual exploration is punishable by death. Whereas for a man, any
form of perversion is pardoned by
the all merciful Allah.

XXIV/6-7: As for those who accuse
their wives but have no witnesses
except themselves , let the testimony of one of them be four testimonies
...

from Hadith TIRMZI AND OTHERS

If a woman's conduct is mischievous or immodest, the husband has the right
to beat her up but must not break
her bones. She must not allow anybody to enter the house if her husband
does not like him. She has the right to expect sustenance of her husband. (TR. P 439)

It is forbidden for a woman to be
seen by any man except her husband
when she is made up or well-dressed. (TR. P 430)

Majority of women would go to hell. (Muslim P 1431)

 > --------------------------------------------

 > K. S. Ramakrishna Rao in 'Mohammed:
 > The Prophet of Islam,' 1989
 >
 > My problem to write this monograph
 > is easier, because we are not
 > generally fed now on that (distorted)
 > kind of history and much time
 > need not be spent on pointing out
 >our misrepresentations of Islam. The
 > theory of Islam and sword, for
 > instance, is not heard now in any
 > quarter worth the name. The
 > principle of Islam that there is no
 > compulsion in religion is well known.

Rao must have lived in some other
dimension (I would
probably propose the Bizarro dimension.)

 > ---------------------------------------------------
 >
 > James Michener in ‘Islam:
 > The Misunderstood Religion,’
 > Reader’s Digest, May 1955, pp. 68-70.
 >
 > "No other religion in history spread
 > so rapidly as Islam. The West has
 > widely believed that this surge of
 >religion was made possible by the
 > sword. But no modern scholar
 > accepts this idea, and the Quran
 > is explicit in the support of the
 > freedom of conscience."

Probably the millions of Indians who once were Hindus and were
butchered all committed suicide
and blamed it on the muslims.
The Armenians who were butched
by the muslim Turns were probable
suicides as well (I believe that's
what the Turks say to this day).

 > "Muhammad, the inspired man
 > who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570
 > into an Arabian tribe that worshiped idols.
 >Orphaned at birth, he was
 > always particularly solicitous of the
 >poor and needy, the widow and
 > the orphan, the slave and the
 >downtrodden. At twenty he was already a
 > successful businessman, and soon
 > became director of camel caravans for
 > a wealthy widow. When he reached
 >twenty-five his employer recognizing
 > his merit, proposed marriage. Even
 > though she was fifteen years older,
 > he married her and as long as she
 > lived remained a devoted husband."

Listen to this astonishing spin and then read the naked facts of
Muhammad's life! I mean, these people have no shame what so ever!

Continuing to quote this disgusting lies is beyond my patience.
Rather, simply read for yourself the words of the Koran and judge:

Mohammed knew that sex would sell
very well among the group of his
lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the
promise of sex slaves and booty. By constantly emphasizing to his
followers that they would get untouched virgins in Paradise, Mohammed
is clearly expressing his "high"
opinion of the institution of marriage and his fairness to women. Once
the followers go to heaven, they can conveniently ditch their wives for
the fresher and more pleasurable
sexual encounters with 'Houris'
(beautiful virgins). Not only that, the poor wives who gave up their
virginity for the pleasure of their husbands do not get even one Male
Sex Bomb. But wait, Allah is all
merciful! He gives the wives the rare honour of watching their husbands
deflower those 72 Houris (virgins)
and 28 young pre-pubescent boys.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 78:31 As for the righteous,
they shall surely triumph. Theirs
shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for
companions: a truly overflowing cup.

Koran 37:40-48 ...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as
chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.

Koran 44:51-55 ...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris.
(beautiful virgins)

Koran 52:17-20 ...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To
dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...

Koran 55:56-57 In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn
will have touched before.Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny ?"

In the Hadiths, Mohammed goes
one step further and expands the
promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no
limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on
display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness.

Quote from Hadiths
Al Hadis, Vol. 4, p. 172, No. 34
Ali reported that the Apostle of
Allah said, "There is in Paradise
a market wherein there will be
no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man
desires a beauty, he will have
intercourse with them."

YOUNG BOYS Homosexuality was
and is widely practised in Islamic
conutries. To please the homosexuals among his followers he promised
them pre-pubescent boys in Paradise. So after committing plunder, loot,
rape and murder in this life, the
followers of Islam get "rewarded"
by untouched virginal youths
who are fresh like pearls.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 52:24 Round about them will
serve, to them, boys (handsome)
as pearls well-guarded.

Koran 56:17 Round about them will
serve boys of perpetual freshness.

Koran 76:19 And round about them
will serve boys of perpetual
freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.

WINE Mohammed had to find more
selling points besides virgins, young boys and plenty of water. What
good would be of Paradise without
rivers of wine for his followers?
Wine was an extremely precious
commodity in the dry deserts of
Arabia where it was rare to find
vineyards. Mohammed had a problem
here- he had to include wine in
his 'Paradise-Package' but how could he include it in the list when
Allah had declared intoxicants as
sinful. The only way to do this
was to somehow claim that the wine
in the promised Paradise was not
intoxicating and therefore not sinful. Never mind the fact that wine
by nature contains alcohol which is intoxicating.

The relevant verses from the Koran are:

Koran 47:15 Here is a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are
promised. In it are...rivers of wine...

Koran 37:40-48 But the true servants of God shall be well provided for,
...they shall be served with goblet filled at a gushing fountain, white and
delicious to those who drink it. It will neither dull their senses
nor befuddle them.

Koran 56:7-40 They shall recline on jewelled couches face to face, and
there shalt wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a
cup of purest wine:

Koran 83:23-26 The righteous will
surely dwell in bliss. Reclining upon soft couches they will gaze around
them: and in their faces you shall
mark the glow of joy. They shall be given a pure wine to drink,
securely sealed, whose very dregs
are musk...

*********************

 From The New York Times' THE
 JIHAD FILES published March 18, 2002

... One document (from al-Qaida
training manuals discovered in
Afghanistan) began with an explanation of the instructor's goals:

"God Almighty has ordered us to
terrorize his enemies," it reads. "In compliance with God's order
and his Prophet's order, in an
attempt to get out of
the humiliation in which we
have found ourselves, we
shall propose to those who
are keen on justice,
fighting against those who
oppose them and those who
diminish them until they receive
fresh orders from
God. To those alone, we present:
`Rudimentary Methods
in the Manufacturing of
Explosive Materials Effective
for Demolition Purposes.' "

    This is quite true, and
    NOT a "lie" by Islamic
    fundamentalists, since the
    Koran does specifically say
    as much. And which, if you
    were smart, you'd
    READ FOR YOURSELF.

There is no need to go to any mosque. The Koran is available everywhere/all
over the Internet now:

http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=HolKora.sgm&images=images/m
odeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=all

But I advise you to take a closer look at Islam for yourself, using your
own mind... impartially, as I did. (I too was once content to believe the
crap Muslims AND their Western stooges like to feed the world.)

The tools to do this are also everywhere available on the internet:

http://www.quran.org/19quest.htm

http://answering-islam.org/index.html

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.afghanistan/msg/ee344ffc53580775?dmo
de=source&hl=en

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/index.html

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/msg/1138bfa1c4479b79?&hl=en&q=rod
rian+Hewlett+Packard+Islam
from:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/browse_frm/thread/41ffed2fd4e3c90
5/f27695a8378e5591?lnk=st&q=rodrian+Hewlett+Packard+Islam&rnum=1&hl=en#f27695a8
378e5591

http://www.armeniapedia.org/index.php?title=Armenian_Genocide

http://www.hindubooks.org/sudheer_birodkar/india_contribution/maths.html

Perhaps the knowledge will make you a good Christian. And if you're now a
Muslim: Hope no one murders you simply because you are curious about THE
TRUTH (and I really mean that). Good look,       [sic]

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://music.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3.sdrodrian.com

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On Mar 27, 11:37 am, "landyman_alby"
 wrote:

> SDR wrote:
>                   http://islamisbad.com

> " every Non-Muslim must be crushed
> to  death by the holy edict
>  of Allah."

> In the cities of the nations the
> LORD your God is giving you as
> an inheritance, do not leave alive
> anything that breathes.
>                         (Deut. 20:16)

> What book does this "holy edict" come from?

 Hello! It comes from a book no longer taken
 seriously (self-evidently, since there are
 many Christians and Muslins "breathing"
 in the lands the LORD gave the Jews
 as their inheritance).

 On the other hand, non-Muslims are not
 faring as well on the lands conquered by
 the Muslims' sword (there is but ONE Jew
 left in Afghanistan, and most of the Jews
 once "barely breathing" among the Arabs
 are now living in Israel--thank you--You
 know: that part of The Lord's Inheritance
 for the Jewish people which said Jewish
 People have managed to pry from the satanic
 Muslim squatters that moved in after the
 Romans killed the rightful inheritors of God).

Madam (or weird sir), your implied contention that the fact that somebody
else has done evil in the world justifies/exculpates the evil that you do
is merely a reflection of your very great wickedness and utter lack of
principles.

In other words: Madam, thou art a reprobate!

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://music.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3.sdrodrian.com

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On Mar 28, 5:05 am, "landyman_alby"
 wrote:

> SDR wrote:

> ".....a reflection of your very great  wickedness and
> utter lack of principles."

> Your response is a reflection of your very great stupidity
> and utter lack of understanding.

I ... I don't understand.

S D Rodrian
http://poems.sdrodrian.com
http://physics.sdrodrian.com
http://music.sdrodrian.com
http://mp3.sdrodrian.com

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GO! GO! GO thou to:

             http://islamisbad.com

There you will find all you need to know about the Evil that is Islam, both
historically and in the modern world. And you won't have to wrack your
brain over why GOD should command war, death, torture, and rape, genocide,
and terror against human beings (as Mohammed said He did).









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