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On 8/24/04 6:18 PM, in article 412be716{at}w3.nls.net, "Robert Comer"
 wrote:

> Very true, but there is the paper (multiple things, not just one piece of
> paper.), and witnesses that agree with the paper.
>
> - Bob Comer
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:412baffa{at}w3.nls.net...
>> In a court of law it would be the trier of facts job to decide who to
>> believe the eye witnesses or the piece of paper.  The trier of fact would
>> decide credibility of both the witnesses and the paper and then choose.
>> Their is no rule that says the paper wins over eye witnesses or vice
>> versa.
>>
>> --
>> Gary
>>
>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>
>> OK Mr. Kerry How About Bringing On That Signed Form 180 To Release All
>> Your
>> Military Records?
>> OK Mr. Kerry how about bringing on a full and complete disclosure of you
>> and
>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>
>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>
>> Kerry:  THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE PORTRAIT HANGS IN A PLACE OF
>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH CITY WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF THE COMMUNIST NORTH
>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S WORK IN AIDING THE NORTH VIETNAMESE IN THEIR WAR
>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>
>>
>> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>> news:412baba4{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Reports can have errors.  Garbage in Garbage Out.  They
don't have to
>>>> match
>>>> up to reality.  No report does.
>>>
>>> Yes they can, but ask yourself what would stand up in a court of law
>> without
>>> any conflicting physical documentation...
>>>
>>> - Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>>> news:412ba8f6{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Reports can have errors.  Garbage in Garbage Out.  They
don't have to
>>>> match
>>>> up to reality.  No report does.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>
>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About Bringing On That Signed Form 180 To
Release All
>>>> Your
>>>> Military Records?
>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about bringing on a full and complete disclosure of
>>>> you
>>>> and
>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>
>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>
>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE PORTRAIT
HANGS IN A PLACE
>> OF
>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH CITY WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF THE
COMMUNIST NORTH
>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S WORK IN AIDING THE NORTH VIETNAMESE
IN THEIR WAR
>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:412b7f08{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> The reports you cite don't establish when that
damage occurred.  Eye
>>>>>> Witnesses say its from the previous day.  That's how.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, try again. (it's got to match up with mission reports.)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:412b7aa6{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>> The reports you cite don't establish when that
damage occurred.  Eye
>>>>>> Witnesses say its from the previous day.  That's how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About Bringing On That Signed
Form 180 To Release
>> All
>>>>>> Your
>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about bringing on a full and
complete disclosure of
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE
PORTRAIT HANGS IN A
>> PLACE
>>>> OF
>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH CITY WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF
THE COMMUNIST
>> NORTH
>>>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S WORK IN AIDING THE NORTH
VIETNAMESE IN THEIR
>> WAR
>>>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:412b64dc{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> The boat damage reports don't
>>>>>>>> support Kerry either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Incorrect Gary, they say small arms fire
damage on more than one of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> boats, just how do you get that without
someone shooting at you...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's just spin from some reporters.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, that's the truth, whether you believe it
or not. It absolutely
>>>> amazes
>>>>>> me
>>>>>>> how you believe everyone that supports your
own personal opinion,
>> and
>>>>>>> believe absolutely nobody who doesn't, whether
the official record
>>>>>>> matches
>>>>>>> the story or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice you don't say anything about the
citation. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:412b5c1d{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>> Not at all when its based on Kerry's lies.
 The boat damage
>> reports
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>> support Kerry either.  That's just spin
from some reporters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About Bringing On That
Signed Form 180 To
>>>>>>>> Release
>>>> All
>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about bringing on a full
and complete disclosure
>> of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's Choice and Ho
Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
WHOSE PORTRAIT HANGS IN A
>>>> PLACE
>>>>>> OF
>>>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH CITY WAR CRIMES
MUSEUM OF THE COMMUNIST
>>>> NORTH
>>>>>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S WORK IN AIDING THE
NORTH VIETNAMESE IN
>> THEIR
>>>> WAR
>>>>>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>> news:412b4b66{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>> Also, but it's more than one, and
this one Kerry couldn't have
>>>>>>>>>> faked,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> boat damage reports also bear out
Kerry's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I forgot the other bronze star
recipients citation, perhaps the
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> damaging of all to your story.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Robert Comer"
 wrote in
>> message
>>>>>>>>> news:412b4b08{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> How accurate are Navy Records
prepared based upon only ONE
>>>>>>>>>>> eye
>>>>>>>> witnesses
>>>>>>>>>>> account?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pretty darn accurate.  They were
written down, not memorized,
>>>>>>>>>> *and
>>>>>>>> nobody
>>>>>>>>>> contested them at the time*.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, but it's more than one, and
this one Kerry couldn't have
>>>>>>>>>> faked,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> boat damage reports also bear out
Kerry's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do the democraps question
Bush's service in the National
>>>>>>>>>>> Guard
>>>>>>>>>>> when the OFFICIAL RECORDS SAY
HE COMPLETED SERVICE HONORABLY
>> AND
>>>>>>>>>>>> COMPLETELY?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Big holes in the record.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Bob Comer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:412b48aa{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>> How accurate are Navy Records
prepared based upon only ONE
>>>>>>>>>>> eye
>>>>>>>> witnesses
>>>>>>>>>>> account?  Why do the democraps
question Bush's service in the
>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>>>>> Guard
>>>>>>>>>>> when the OFFICIAL RECORDS SAY
HE COMPLETED SERVICE HONORABLY
>> AND
>>>>>>>>>>> COMPLETELY?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry is the one who has said
if you weren't in my boat you
>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> liar,
>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>> that is the standard that the
Kerry people should be held to
>>>> which
>>>>>>>> means
>>>>>>>>>>> this guy Langhofer is a LIAR.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Swift Boat People are
willing to take lie detector tests
>>>>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>> next to Kerry while he takes
one.  I don't see the Kerry
>> people
>>>>>>>> proposing
>>>>>>>>>>> lie detector tests.  Hell the
Kerry people won't even let the
>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>> veterans
>>>>>>>>>>> go on the talking head shows
last weekend to speak, out of
>> fear
>>>>>>>> somebody
>>>>>>>>>>> might ask them a question
other than the specific question
>> Kerry
>>>>>> likes
>>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>>> answer on.   This is not a
fear of the Swift Boat Veterans
>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>> appear
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> speak themselves and don't
send professional liars from the
>>>> Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>> administration out to speak
for them the way Kerry does.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The same liars who went on all
the networks talking about how
>>>>>> Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> have sex with that woman,
Clinton didn't commit perjury,
>> Clinton
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> lie
>>>>>>>>>>> to the entire Country are the
same professional liars sent
>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>> spin
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> story for Kerry.  Gee could it
be they are LYING AGAIN!!?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About
Bringing On That Signed Form 180 To
>>>> Release
>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about
bringing on a full and complete
>>>>>>>>>>> disclosure
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's
Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATE WHOSE PORTRAIT HANGS
>> IN
>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>> PLACE
>>>>>>>>>>> OF
>>>>>>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH CITY
WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF THE
>> COMMUNIST
>>>>>> NORTH
>>>>>>>>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S WORK IN
AIDING THE NORTH VIETNAMESE IN
>>>> THEIR
>>>>>>>>>>> WAR
>>>>>>>>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:412ab0d2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the Swift Boat
people were nowhere near Kerry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As an attorney I would
hope you are fully aware of the
>> accuracy
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> eye
>>>>>>>>>>>> witnesses, especially
after how many years ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Lewis
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412aab05$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> No they haven't that is a
complete LIE, and you know it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>> EYE
>>>>>>>>>>>> WITNESSES ARE EYE
WITNESSES and all EYE WITNESSES are
>>>> competent
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> say
>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> they saw.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About
Bringing On That Signed Form 180 To
>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about
bringing on a full and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>> disclosure
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's
Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE PORTRAIT
>> HANGS
>>>> IN
>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>> PLACE
>>>>>>>>>>> OF
>>>>>>>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH
CITY WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF THE
>>>> COMMUNIST
>>>>>>>> NORTH
>>>>>>>>>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S
WORK IN AIDING THE NORTH VIETNAMESE
>> IN
>>>>>> THEIR
>>>>>>>>>>>> WAR
>>>>>>>>>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Robert G Lewis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412aa28e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> And the Swift Boaters have
been saying anyone in Viet Nam
>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>> served with Kerry so....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Lewis
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412aa222$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope there is a big lie. 
The Kerry people have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> saying
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> three
>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks
>>>>>>>>>>>> that anybody not
physically in Kerry's own boat didn't
>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> is a liar.  Therefore, the
Kerry people are
>>>>>>>>>>>> disqualified
>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> citing
>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>> guy, and this guy is a
LIAR.  (But then so are the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>> new).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About
Bringing On That Signed Form 180
>> To
>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about
bringing on a full and complete
>>>>>>>>>>>> disclosure
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's
Choice and Ho Chi Minh too!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE PORTRAIT
>>>> HANGS
>>>>>> IN
>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>> PLACE
>>>>>>>>>>>> OF
>>>>>>>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HO CHI MINH
CITY WAR CRIMES MUSEUM OF THE
>>>>>> COMMUNIST
>>>>>>>>>>> NORTH
>>>>>>>>>>>> VIETNAMESE FOR KERRY'S
WORK IN AIDING THE NORTH
>> VIETNAMESE
>>>> IN
>>>>>>>> THEIR
>>>>>>>>>>> WAR
>>>>>>>>>>>> EFFORT AGAINST THE USA!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412a3c79$3{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Langhofer didn't serve
with Kerry. He served on the
>> Swift
>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> thus there is no lie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412a39d0{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry has previously
stated that Langhofer didn't
>> serve
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>>> According
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Kerry campaign
Langhofer is a liar.
>> Therefore,
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> quoting
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> citing to somebody that
Kerry says is a liar who
>> didn't
>>>>>> serve
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry says "Bring It On"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry How About
Bringing On That Signed Form
>> 180
>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>> Release
>>>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your
>>>>>>>>>>>> Military Records?
>>>>>>>>>>>> OK Mr. Kerry how about
bringing on a full and
>> complete
>>>>>>>>>>>> disclosure
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> your wife's income tax returns?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vote Kerry.  He's Usama's
Choice and Ho Chi Minh
>> too!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry:  THE ONLY
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHOSE
>> PORTRAIT
>>>>>> HANGS
>>>>>>>> IN
>>>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>> PLACE
>>>>>>>>>>>> OF
>>>>>>>>>>>> HONOR IN THE HANOI
COMMUNIST NORTH VIETNAMESE WAR
>>>> MEMORIAL
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412a3189{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in
>> message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:412a2e6d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Meaningless.  Elliott was
nowhere near the events
>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> happened
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> what he describes is based
upon the "spot
>>>>>>>>>>>> reports"
>>>> that
>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> prepared,
>>>>>>>>>>>> falsely, that were turned
into "after action
>>>>>>>>>>>> reports"
>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone else based upon
Kerry's "spot reports".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It appears that Wayne D
Langhofer was there. <
>> They're
>>>>>>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> woodwork now >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/08/23/swift_boat_veteran_bac
k
>> s_kerry_on_details_of_1969_ambush/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Supporting John F. Kerry's
recollection of a
>>>>>>>>>>>> Vietnam
>>>> War
>>>>>>>> battle
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> focal point of criticism
against him by a group of
>>>>>> veterans,
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> gunner
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Navy swift boat
immediately behind John F. Kerry's
>>>>>>>>>>>> distinctly
>>>>>>>>>>>> remembers
>>>>>>>>>>>> enemy fire around them
during a March 1969 ambush.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wayne D. Langhofer, now an
employee at a Kansas
>>>> gunpowder
>>>>>>>>>>>> plant,
>>>>>>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington Post in
yesterday's editions, "There was
>> a
>>>> lot
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> firing
>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>> on, and it came from both
sides of the river."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reflecting on the battle
in the Bay Hap River,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> resulted
>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> being awarded the Bronze
Star and receiving a third
>>>>>>>>>>>> Purple
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heart,
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> allowed him to end his
combat tour after just four
>>>>>>>>>>>> months,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Langhofer
>>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>> distinctly remembered the
"clack, clack, clack" of
>>>> enemy
>>>>>>>>>>>> AK-47s,
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> muzzle flashes from the
surrounding riverbanks.
>>>> Langhofer
>>>>>>>>>>>> manned
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>>>>> gun aboard PCF-43, the
boat that was directly
>>>>>>>>>>>> behind
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry's.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Langhofer told the Post,
in what is apparently his
>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>> published
>>>>>>>>>>>> interview, that he was
approached several months
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>> leaders
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Swift
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boat Veterans for Truth
but declined their requests
>> to
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry was awarded the
Bronze Star for rescuing
>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>> Rassmann,
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> Army
>>>>>>>>>>>> Green
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beret who was blown off
Kerry's boat in the attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rassmann said in an
interview with the Post that
>>>> members
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Swift
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boat
>>>>>>>>>>>> Veterans for Truth
"are not just questioning
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry's
>>>>>>>>>>>> account,
>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> questioning my account. I
take that very
>>>>>>>>>>>> personally.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> tell
>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> we were not under fire. I
saw it, I heard the
>>>>>>>>>>>> splashes,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> scared
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> death. For them to come
back 35 years after the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fact
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> tarnish
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kerry's record, but my veracity, is
>>>>>>>>>>>> unconscionable."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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