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echo: philos
to: KEITH KNAPP
from: ANDREW CUMMINS
date: 1998-02-09 18:53:00
subject: Smart

 -=> Quoting Keith Knapp to Andrew Cummins <=-
 KK> But you don't seem to have thought much about what to actually _do_
 KK> about those "human debris who are worse than worthless."
 KK> Euthanasia?  Work camps?  You wouldn't seriously consider such
 KK> ideas, would you?  If not, what then?  If you say they should
 KK> get jobs, tell me where these millions of jobs are suddenly going
 KK> to materialize from.
I'm not some NAZI who would impose euthanasia or work camps
on someone simply because I don't like them.  And, I'm not
some NAZI who would use the government to steal your money
to pay someone else to be unproductive, criminal, and
otherwise toxic to civilization.
People are not unemployed for reasons beyond their own control,
especially concerning the claim that there are not enough jobs.
Go look at all the help-wanted adds in the paper - that's only a
small fraction of the available jobs.  They're unemployed because
they don't want to work, at least at the jobs they can get.
 KK> If you look at the history of welfare programs, you see that the
 KK> 'relief' in the 30s was a direct respinse to the worst of capitalism's
 KK> cyclical fuckups, where millions of people desperately needed a few
 KK> dollars to keep from literally starving.
I don't know enough about the 30s to comment, but if you
would like to explain the mechanisms of capitalism which
you feel are at fault... On other hand, socialism is
immoral and leads continually down hill.
 KK> If not, tell me exactly, precisely, what you think should be done
 KK> with all those millions of people -- who, incidentally, are for
 KK> the most part single mothers.
Precisely, but not limited to, take away their welfare.
 KK> Stalin is reputed to have said that the death of one person is a
 KK> tragedy, but the death of one million people is a statistic.
Yes, that really can be said concerning the abortion holocaust.
 KK> It's trivially easy for you to go on about "human debris who
 KK> are worse than worthless."  But if you suddenly had responsibility
 KK> for the lives and deaths of those millions of people, what would
 KK> you do?
I am not responsible for human debris.  Or, do you mean
that I suddenly become the benevolent dictator of America?
I would legalize every victimless crime and properly
punish every violation of another's rights.  The human
debre would then kill themselves off or become productive.
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