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from: SEANYMPH
date: 2014-12-14 23:03:00
subject: Re: ~BD~, Ask Dustin Cook

On 12/14/2014 3:24 PM, Jax wrote:
> FromTheRafters  wrote in
> news:m6kl9e$9st$1@news2.open-news-network.org:
>
>> Jax pretended :
>>> FromTheRafters  wrote in
>>> news:m6kfle$4h3$1@news2.open-news-network.org:
>>>
>>>> on 12/14/2014, Jax supposed :
>>>>> FromTheRafters  wrote in
>>>>> news:m6k7m6$s8g$1@news2.open-news-network.org:
>>>>>
>>>>>> SeaNymph formulated on Sunday :
>>>>>>> On 12/13/2014 11:22 AM, Jax wrote:
>>>>>>>> G. Morgan  wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:idko8ad44osjrl5oeit4v0hfsiral973is@Osama-is-dead.net:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jax wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dustin  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:XnsA3FFC3AEC7B8C9X238BHEUFHHI5RJ791@192.254.233.145:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> G. Morgan  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>> news:ppbh8adlce27bjndi73g2ds54fctfpm5s7@Osama-is-
>>>>>>>>>>> dead.net:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not hiding behind anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Need to add to filter:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: *remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ignore previous post. Seems Xnews doesn't like wildcards
>>>>>>>>>>> on everything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Use this one instead:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [.]
>>>>>>>>>>> score::-9999
>>>>>>>>>>> Xref: alt.usenet.kooks
>>>>>>>>>>> From: b7r7tn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> From: burford@hubdub.mo
>>>>>>>>>>> From: ~BD~@nomail.afraid.org
>>>>>>>>>>> From: ~BD~@nomale.afraid.org
>>>>>>>>>>> From: remove.bear.bottoms1@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> From: super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Hot-Text@Anonymous.org
>>>>>>>>>>> From: raylopez*@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> From: remailer.privacy.at
>>>>>>>>>>> From: dizum.com
>>>>>>>>>>> From: foto.nl1.torservers.net
>>>>>>>>>>> From: isis.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>>> From: anonymitaet-im-inter.net
>>>>>>>>>>> From: remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dustin you're right in that you are using too many
>>>>>>>>>> wildcards. if you drop the angle brackets in your entry
>>>>>>>>>> for me then you can also drop the wildcard. Think about
>>>>>>>>>> it! >> And don't forget to remove the "A" before "JAX" or
>>>>>>>>>> you wil fail to match almost all of my posts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where did you learn to write such bad regex? Let me
>>>>>>>>>> guess..... you taught yourself. That figures!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's not using RegEx.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graham.... Dustin's not writing in regex but his statements
>>>>>>>> are being interpreted as such. That's one of the problems
>>>>>>>> he's hitting with those gauche statments he posted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've already explained to you the connection between Perl
>>>>>>>> and Xnews' score.ini file.....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      "Xnews' score file does use a type of Perl compatible
>>>>>>>>      regex. http://xnews.remarqs.net/score.htm "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      MID: 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jackie, perhaps you and your so called "techs" would be
>>>>>>> better served by trying to actually read and comprehend the
>>>>>>> written word.  Interpretation is not needed or necessary.
>>>>>>> Your overreach, in a failed attempt to insult Dustin, just
>>>>>>> makes you and yours look stupid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think about it.  LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see where the tilde character is used for negation,
>>>>>> only the caret, but my eyes aren't so good right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafty rest your eyes. This is what you would have seen in the
>>>>> Xnews info file on scoring....
>>>>
>>>> So I didn't see it because it wasn't there, that's a relief.
>>>>
>>>>>     "If group-regular-expression is preceded with a tilde (~),
>>>>>     then the meaning is inverted.  For example, [~babylon|trek]
>>>>>     applies to all groups that do NOT contain either 'babylon'
>>>>>     or 'trek'"
>>>>>
>>>>>     "If you precede keyword with a ~, then the meaning is
>>>>>     inverted."
>>>>
>>>> After reading the Xnews scoring.txt text file I see why I didn't
>>>> see the mentioned tilde referenced in the PCRE document. Here in
>>>> the score.txt file or whatever it says stuff about the tilde in
>>>> the *group-regular-expression* area which does not apply to the
>>>> "~BD~" part of the string being matched which you were so
>>>> concerned about.
>>>>
>>>> Please help me to understand your concern about the tilde in
>>>> BD's nym reversing the logic.
>>>>
>>>> So you were wrong about the tilde
>>>
>>> Rafty of course I wasn't wrong .... I didn't say the tildes
>>> around 'BD' caused any error whatsover. What I did say is there's
>>> "risk of error" when using tildes as literals because they are
>>> used to invert what follows. I didn't specify if I was or was not
>>> talking about keywords. Think about it!
>>
>> How does the tilde cause a 'risk of error' when they *do not*
>> invert unless within a *group-regular-expression* which uses
>> square bracket symbols to delineate the
>> 'group-regular-expression'?
>
> Rafty....
>
> The error does not come from the statement Dustin gave. Nor did I
> say it was wrong.
>
> The error could come from not realizing the statements are being
> interpreted as regex and going on to (mis)use the tilde in another
> situation which would invert the subsquent text.
>
> Go see how we wrote it in my message... it's precise. Just saying!
>
>
>>> BTW what do you think of Dustin's "expensive" and unnecessary use
>>> of asterisks in his latest suggestions for Xnews filtering.....
>>>
>>> From: BurfordTJustice*
>>> From: raylopez*@gmail.com
>>
>> I don't read most of his stuff, but it seems unnecessary
>> especially for boneheads who don't nymshift. I doesn't hurt much
>> computing-cost-wise I don't think, BTJ would be filtered no matter
>> what e-mail address he used (but he almost always uses the same
>> one) and as for Ray I haven't seen him change the number part of
>> his firstpart ever. I used a very small and simple string to
>> filter BTJ in the past, and have never bothered to filter Ray.
>> They are both entertaining in a sick sort of way.
>
> That's right..... BTJ uses the same nym and a wildcard is not
> necessary. Similarly for RayLopez. Regex can do the matching up
> faster without a wildcard and the completeness is every bit as good.
>
>>> He doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Just saying.
>>
>> I don't care, sorry.
>
> Whether you care on not, Dustin doesn't seem to know what he's doing
> when it comes to writing Xnews score file entries. Why did he
> suddenly announce he had some score file entries for Xnews.... no
> one asked him to do that!
>
> It's all a bit like his Exevalid fiasco.... Dustin proudly posts
> some code which turns out on closer inspection to be defective. Then
> he spends his time spinning to pretend it never happened.
>
It appears that you, jackie, still don't know what you're talking about. 
  When are you going to attribute the information provided to the person 
who actually wrote it?

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