DB> Among the last few lines of the Homeric Hymn to Demeter: "Whoever among
 DB> men who walk the earth has seen these mysteries is blessed, but whoever
 DB> is uninitiated and has not received his share of the rite will not have
 DB> the same lot as the others..."
 DB> So, how we could *know* would be reasonable if we could expand the
 DB> awareness beyond the impact of the senses as we normally use them. The
 DB> Greeks found 'Kykeon' to be one of the means of that expansion of
 DB> awareness.  To say that one cannot *know* without trying it, or some
 DB> other effective psychedelic, is not so reasonable.
   Well, I can't reasonably argue against that and if some future generation
discovers that a higher order of well-being can be reached by this means it
wouldn't really matter whether or not I approved.  Our normal use of drugs is
to make people physically or mentally functioning beings in the order in 
hich
we live.  if a different order created by altering the brains of entire
societies into a different, "expanded" awareness comes to be I could not have
as long as (grin) I'm not "eliminated" as "out of date."
   Come to think of it (chuckle) such is not even much of a worry given my
age!!
Sincerely, 
                                     Frank
                                                                              
                                                       
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