PE> They ALL have the retrain request on at least one V32bis modem.

PC> If by saying "one V32bis modem" you mean the Supra could
it not be the
PC> Supra at fault, BTW is the Supra based on the Rockwell V32bis chip.

For sure, I didn't make a statement one way or the other about who,
if anyone, was violating protocol.  I don't know.  I do know that
it can be worked around on the USR side though, because I can use
another modem here and it works.  And in fact, they have already
created the workaround - disable V32terbo on the USR.  Since I don't
have another V32terbo modem available, I can't tell whether the USR
could provide a better workaround than simply disabling V32terbo.
Actually, my Thunder was V32terbo, but it was even WORSE than the
Courier, so the Courier is still the best V32terbo implementation
I have used.  Note that I am STILL not saying that the Courier is
in any way violating the V32bis or V32terbo protocols at all, or
even that they have a lousy implementation of them.

Oh, and yes, the Supra is a Rockwell V32bis, just like the Maestro.

PE> I didn't say it was a crap modem because of it, I said it is
PE> either a bug or a design fault.  I've said on numerous occasions
PE> that it is only a minor problem.  It's interesting how many
PE> people will try to turn my numerous claims of it being a minor
PE> problem into a "consistently says that it is a major problem".

PC> Well i got the impression you considered it to be a major problem no
PC> doubt others will have drawn the same conclusion.

Well, maybe they should read more carefully when I make a blanket
statement that it is a minor problem which I was able to work 
around within 5 minutes of realising what was happening.

PC> BTW Hows the M34F performing so far, i'm using an M11F on my
PC> mailer here and it gives me no problems apart from calling a
PC> system on very bad lines where i only get a 4800 connect, oddly
PC> enough the USR will get 16800 connects to that system.

PE> It's FAR WORSE than the Courier.  Mainly because a Maestro SE
PE> 9600 can't connect to it at 9600.  A secondary problem is the

No change on this.

PE> failure of a USR Sportster to connect with EC on 50% of times.

The Courier is able to work around this problem by forcing a lower
maximum V.34 rate of 26400 or something (still to be determined).

PC> How are your phone lines, have you ever had them checked out.

They were checked out once.  The technician was not impressed that
I had called him out on the basis of my modem's MR light flashing.
That was 2 years ago.  BFN.  Paul.
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