From: Adam Flinton 

Gene McAloon wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:32:41 -0400, "John Beamish"
 DOT com> wrote:
>
>
>>We still study the war of 1812 in our history texts.  It's interesting to
>>see the reaction when it comes up in conversation.  There's Canadian-style
>>indignation but it's still indignation nearly 200 years later.
>>
>>I think most Americans truly do not understand how -- for decades and,
>>perhaps, centuries --  Iraqis and Muslims will view the US-led invasion of
>>Iraq.
>
>
> If Canadians remember 1812 at all it is only because so many resent the
> US today, not because the US was once militarily threatening, but
> because Canadians resent almost everything that is foreign and resent
> themselves in the process.
>
> When they at long last started to lose their Britishism, it was replaced
> not with Canadianism, but Americanism.

What, they started speaking Spanish?

> Canadians are still searching for
> an identity and insofar as American culture seems destined to dominate
> Canada, naturally the US is resented and such passing trivia as 1812
> still galls.
>
> Repeating Phil's nonsense about Iraqis remembering practically forever
> the US invasion of their country is another mistake. The fact of the
> matter, in direct contradiction of what Phil claims, the Iraqis have
> been invaded so many time by so many different countries and empires the
> relatively benign US invasion will not be remembered at all. The Brits
> invaded Iraq in the '20s and who, including Iraqis, remembers that and
> why would they?

Yup only sad failures would remember events from the 20'es...who would
still quote events from that period to others.....oh that's
right...Feinians.

>
> You have  got to have something like hundreds of years of occupation and
> cultural influence such as that of the Turks or the Mongol devastation
> for the Iraqis to remember it. The idea that somehow Orientals have
> longer memories than Westerners is pure fantasy of course.
>

Indeed, the squalid little fight in & around Dublin general post office
is still remembered by sad little western people whereas the orientals have
no memeories of that time at all.


Adam

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