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echo: barktopus
to: Gene McAloon
from: Phil Payne
date: 2004-09-02 16:21:58
subject: Re: Pentagon Attack

From: Phil Payne 

> When they at long last started to lose their Britishism, it was replaced
> not with Canadianism, but Americanism. Canadians are still searching for
> an identity and insofar as American culture seems destined to dominate
> Canada, naturally the US is resented and such passing trivia as 1812
> still galls.

A Canadian once told me that the CN Tower was built as a defence against
American cultural imperialism.  Something to do with adding range to
Canadian television broadcasts to counter the shower of channels coming
north.

> Repeating Phil's nonsense about Iraqis remembering practically forever
> the US invasion of their country is another mistake. The fact of the
> matter, in direct contradiction of what Phil claims, the Iraqis have
> been invaded so many time by so many different countries and empires the
> relatively benign US invasion will not be remembered at all. The Brits
> invaded Iraq in the '20s and who, including Iraqis, remembers that and
> why would they?

Erm - all of the Iraqis I know.  "You bloody Christians" was an
early comment from one of them.

> You have got to have something like hundreds of years of occupation and
> cultural influence such as that of the Turks or the Mongol devastation
> for the Iraqis to remember it. The idea that somehow Orientals have
> longer memories than Westerners is pure fantasy of course.

Who said that?  My example was the Battle of the Boyne.

Things are different today.  People are remembering privately in public
thanks to the web.

--
  Phil Payne
  http://www.isham-research.com
  +44 7785 302 803
  +49 173 6242039

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