On Thu 07 Mar at 00:42 Paul Edwards (3:711/934.9) wrote to Ian Smith:

 PE> 2. The problem is more fundamental than that.  Even if the 
 PE> lines are noisy at 28800, EC should still be negotiated. 
 PE>  EC was not something designed to be used purely on good 
 PE> lines, after all!  And if the lines are so lousy that 
 PE> you can't get any of the EC characters through, the 
 PE> modems with their default settings have no right to be
 PE> connecting at 28800.  That is lying and cheating.  They
 PE>  should be connecting at 19200, or whatever the lines 
 PE> REALLY allow.

Exactly. Frank Nitzsche (Australian convenor for ITU-T Study Group 14, and
very helpful bloke at Telstra) has noticed this problem with some modems.
If your modem's manufacturers disown the problems, tell them to contact
Frank or contact him yourself on (02) 396 3053 fax (02) 264 2296.

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