> RT> Yes, I suppose so.  But then I would have to consider ANY evidence,
   > RT> wouldn't I.  What tangible evidence, certified alien or otherwise,
   > RT> is available to substantiate a UFO event?
THC>Alleged implants, saucer debris, objects damaged by UFO's or aliens, 
person
   >injuries caused by UFO's or aliens, etc.  Please note that "alleged" is 
mea
   >to apply to all the items listed.
The operative word here is "alleged".  Lots of folks claiming to have
stuff, but few actually producing it.
THC>Background:  a post went around a while back concerning a "sting" 
operation
   >England where police broadcast a fake message stating that a UFO had 
crashe
   >a certain location.  When several people showed up at the crash site 
asking
   >about the UFO, they were promptly arrested (hint: don't take your police
   >scanner with you when you visit England).
Good point but having little to do with actual evidence of aliens
THC>My alleged point:  a couple of the skeptics here immediately classed 
hese
   >people as UFO fanatics with reality problems, as who else would go out to 
s
   >reported crashed UFO?
Nahhhh... just curiosity seekers.  I have to believe that if a story
circulated by ANY means that a UFO had landed, there would be multitudes
of people flocking to the site.
THC> RT> They always seem to belong to someone else (a fellow I know?)...
THC>All the UFO's I've seen were out of arm's reach, else some might
   > belong to me.
That is my problem.  Its always "someone I know"... "once when I was
little"... or some such.  No real hard first hand opportunity to handle
the evidence.
THC>Probably just got lost, although some alien artifacts reportedly 
disappear 
   >their own (angel hair, slime).  I *might* encountered angle hair once, 
ut
   >didn't know what it was at the time, so I didn't take any samples.
I don't know what "angel hair" is or how it is related to UFO's.  Is it
some substance that has been linked somehow to aliens?
THC>One poster in this echo several years ago had an alleged implant that he
   >offered up for testing.  He found that none of the people clamoring for 
pro
   >were willing to pay for such testing, and no lab was willing to do it for 
f
   > He also found that no lab was willing to guarantee that the implant 
would 
   >be destroyed in the testing process.  I.e. a "destructive test" which 
would
   >probably consume the entire sample, leaving no possibility of a duplicate 
t
   >at another lab to verify the findings of the first.
I remember the thread very well.  If I remember correctly he did get
someone to do some testing but the thread died before we heard the
results...  [sigh].... same old story.
THC>(Which spawned a lengthy argument in and of itself.  Would a single lab 
tes
   >which clearly showed something to be of alien origin but destroyed the 
samp
   >be sufficient?
It certainly would lend credence to the alien hypothesis, but probably
wouldn't be widely accepted unless they could reproduce their
experiments.  Its hard to believe that a lab would have to consume ALL
of any specimen to evaluate it when labs routinely do testing on trace
samples.  From my skeptic perspective... just another excuse.
THC>I'm not a scientist, either, but I did take quite a few physics and 
chemist
   >courses.  Naturally occurring isotope ratios are used in several areas of
   >science to determine place of origin, time since an event, rainfall 
levels,
   >etc. The key word, however, is "naturally".  It's also possible to change 
t
   >isotope ratio, such as in uranium when it is enriched.
We had that discussion also here a few years ago.  The prevailing
opinion then was that isotope ratios would indeed separate terrestrial
and extraterrestrial matter.
   > Specifically
   >what evidence would be necessary to convince you that UFO's were of alien
   >origin, or that alien abductions actually take place?
As I stated in another post... an announcement or proclamation by any
U.S. government agency, any recognized scientific organization, or any
recognized college or university.
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