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from: BOB KLAHN
date: 2006-07-20 03:05:00
subject: complaint re Israel

Just cross posting this because I think it might be worth
 thinking about. Then again, maybe not. OK, either way.

* Original: FROM..... BOB KLAHN
* Original: TO....... BOB ACKLEY
* Original: FORUM.... POL_INC
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 AH>>> The current Gaza invasion is only the latest effort to
 AH>>> destroy the results of fair and free elections held early
 AH>>> this year. It is the explosive follow-up to a five-month
 AH>>> campaign of economic and diplomatic warfare directed by the
 AH>>> United States and Israel. The stated intention of that
 AH>>> strategy was to force the average Palestinian to
 AH>>> "reconsider" her vote when faced with deepening hardship;
 AH>>> its failure was predictable, and the new overt military
 AH>>> aggression and collective punishment are its logical
 AH>>> fulfillment. The "kidnapped" Israeli Cpl. Gilad Shalit is
 AH>>> only a pretext for a job scheduled months ago.

 BK>>  Whether it was schedualed months ago, I do not know. Wouldn't
 BK>>  put it past the US neo-cons. Do know, when you demand they have
 BK>>  democratic elections, you may have to put up with a government
 BK>>  you don't like.

 BA> Um.  Its when you have *honest* elections that that happens.

 Revisiting this:

 The attacks on and from Lebanon led me to consider something
 else. For a long time I have read that the real reason the fundy
 Christians in the US support Israel is that they believe the
 restoration of Israel will bring on the last days.

 The way the last days were supposed to play out was Israel was
 to be invaded from the North, which was always interpreted as
 Russia. Only now they are fighting in Lebanon, which is north of
 Israel. While Lebanon is not near strong enough to invade
 Israel, Syrian and Iran just may believe they are. With the
 complicity of Saudi Arabia and other Arab States, the dangers
 may not be illusory. Jordan has a large Palestinian population,
 and Saudi Arabia is the home of the most militant Islamic
 factions.

 The only thing standing between Iran and Israel is Iraq, and our
 occupation is a bit troubled there. With the Iraqi Shia inclined
 to Iran, and the Sunnies looking for an excuse to get rid of out
 forces, that may be enough.

 It doesn't really matter if the combined Arab forces really have
 the power to take Israel, what matters is if enough think the
 attempt will bring on biblical intervention. Seems that's the
 goal of both the Religious right in this country, and Al Qaeda.

 IOW, wonder how much the administration is supporting Isreal in
 the expansion of the fight, or how much the religous fundies are
 convincing Israel that the US supports them, to try to force the
 end times. The ultimate end would be the end of Judaism, but
 exploiting Israel in that way would not be beyond them.

 Some in this, both Christian and Islamic extreme conservatives,
 would like to push us to the intervention by God. They want to
 force God's hand, whether they realize it or not. We've seen
 this before, and it always ends in disaster. Just my view of it.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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