From: "Gary Britt" 

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IBM Selectric's didn't use proportional spaced fonts.  Here are the = fonts
that IBM Selectric Used

He points us to the Selectric Typewriter Museum at =
http://www.selectric.org/selectric/index.html.
(Sigh. Silly me! I had just been thinking about taking Mrs. Kerry Spot = to
the Selectric Typewriter Museum the other day.)

The available fonts are listed there:

  10 Pitch Type Styles: Advocate, Bookface Academic 72, Delegate, =
Orator, Courier 72, Pica 72, Prestige Pica 72=20
  12 Pitch Type Styles: Adjutant, Artisan 12, Courier 12 Italic, Scribe, =
Prestige Elite, Courier 12, Elite 72, Letter Gothic

  Special Typing Applications: Light Italic, Script, Printing ANSI-OCR, =
Symbol 10, 108 OCR, Manifold 72, Symbol 12


To my layman's eye, none of those fonts look quite like Times New Roman, =
or the font on the CBS memo.

Numerous experts say you couldn't do the superscript "th" on any
= typewriter available in 1972, the same experts all state that there were
= a few typewriters around that did proportional spaced fonts but those =
typewriters cost $20,000 in 1972 dollars.  Not likely to ever be at any =
Government office given how notoriously cheap they are for furnishings =
and fixtures, much less a National Guard Office.  To think otherwise is =
just plainly ridiculous.

I personally owned an IBM selectric, and I can guarantee you that these =
documents are not in the fonts fond on an IBM Selectric and that the IBM =
Selectric could NOT do the superscript "th" that appears in these
FAKED = documents.  I also owned the  IBM model that was current just
before the = black selectrics with the balls came out.  Neither did this
type or a = superscript "th".

Gary

  "Gregg N"  wrote in message =
news:4140be36$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  The document appears to me to use a fixed width font. I don't know =
where you got your information about $20,000 typewriters, but the =
superscript "th" was possible using a common IBM Selectric of the
day. = The original Selectric was introduced in 1961. See

  http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/IBM-Selectric-typewriter

  It could print special symbols and different fonts. I could not find =
what they sold for back then, but I doubt it was anywhere close to =
$20,000. It was marketed as office equipment.

  Gregg

    "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:4140b0d8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Even a cursory examination of the document which can be found here =
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf shows its FAKE.

    The document is from 1972, and in 1972 people and the National Guard =
used TYPEWRITERS.  Typewriters used a fixed pitch courier font.  This =
FAKED document is in a PROPORTIONAL font that only typewriters costing =
more than $20,000 1972 dollars could imitate, and NO TYPEWRITER (not = even
a $20,000 one) could create the superscript "th" that is in this
= FAKED document.  Microsoft Word of course uses proportional fonts and =
automatically creates the superscript "th" found in this FAKED
document.

    CBS and the democraps show their slime again.  This could backfire =
on Kerry with such an obviously faked document.

    There are problems with the signature as well that makes experts =
think the signature is a cut a paste job of a signature from another = document.

    Gary

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IBM Selectric's didn't use proportional spaced fonts.  Here =
are the=20
fonts that IBM Selectric Used
 
He points us to the Selectric
Typewriter Museum at =

http://www.selectric.org/selectric/index.html.
(Sigh. Silly me! I had just been thinking about taking Mrs. Kerry =
Spot to the=20
Selectric Typewriter Museum the other day.)
The available fonts are listed there:
10 Pitch Type Styles: Advocate, Bookface Academic 72, =
Delegate,=20
  Orator, Courier 72, Pica 72, Prestige Pica 72=20
  12 Pitch Type Styles: Adjutant, Artisan 12, Courier 12 Italic, =
Scribe,=20
  Prestige Elite, Courier 12, Elite 72, Letter Gothic
  Special Typing Applications: Light Italic, Script, Printing =
ANSI-OCR,=20
  Symbol 10, 108 OCR, Manifold 72, Symbol 12

To my layman's eye, none of those fonts look
quite like Times =
New=20
Roman, or the font on the CBS memo.
Numerous experts say you couldn't do the
superscript "th" on any =

typewriter available in 1972, the same experts all state that there were = a few=20
typewriters around that did proportional spaced fonts but those = typewriters cost=20
$20,000 in 1972 dollars.  Not likely to ever be at any =
Government=20
office given how notoriously cheap they are for furnishings and = fixtures, much=20
less a National Guard Office.  To think otherwise is just
plainly=20 ridiculous.
I personally owned an IBM selectric, and I can guarantee you that =
these=20
documents are not in the fonts fond on an IBM Selectric and that the IBM =

Selectric could NOT do the superscript "th" that appears in these
FAKED=20 documents.  I also owned the  IBM model that was
current just = before=20
the black selectrics with the balls came out.  Neither did this =
type or a=20
superscript "th".
Gary

  "Gregg N" <greggn{at}invalid.invalid>">mailto:greggn{at}invalid.invalid">greggn{at}invalid.invalid>
=
wrote in=20
  message news:4140be36$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  The document appears
to me to =
use a fixed=20
  width font. I don't know where you got your information about $20,000=20
  typewriters, but the superscript "th" was possible using a common IBM=20
  Selectric of the day. The original Selectric was introduced in 1961.=20
  See
   
  http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/IBM-Selectric-typewriter=
">http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/IBM-Selectric-typewriter=
FONT>
   
  It could print special symbols and =
different=20
  fonts. I could not find what they sold for back then, but I =
doubt it was=20
  anywhere close to $20,000. It was marketed as office =
equipment.
   
  Gregg
   
  

    "Gary Britt" <garyb{at}nospamforme.com>">mailto:garyb{at}nospamforme.com">garyb{at}nospamforme.com>
=
wrote in=20
    message news:4140b0d8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    Even a cursory examination of the document which can be found =
here http://www.c" target="new">http://www.c=">http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf">http://www.c=
bsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf shows=20
    its FAKE.
     
    The document is from 1972, and in 1972 people and the National =
Guard=20
    used TYPEWRITERS.  Typewriters used a fixed pitch courier =
font. =20
    This FAKED document is in a PROPORTIONAL font that only typewriters =
costing=20
    more than $20,000 1972 dollars could imitate, and NO TYPEWRITER (not =
even a=20
    $20,000 one) could create the superscript "th" that is in this FAKED =

    document.  Microsoft Word of course uses proportional fonts and =

    automatically creates the superscript "th" found in this FAKED=20
    document.
     
    CBS and the democraps show their slime again.  This could =
backfire=20
    on Kerry with such an obviously faked document.
     
    There are problems with the signature as well that makes =
experts think=20
    the signature is a cut a paste job of a signature from another=20
    document.
     
    Gary
   
 

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