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to: Glenn Meadows
from: Robert Comer
date: 2004-09-09 22:25:06
subject: Re: `New Documents` Used By 60 Minutes Are FAKES!!!!

From: "Robert Comer" 

I've seen those and yes, they were a bear to use!

- Bob Comer


"Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
news:4140c33d{at}w3.nls.net...
> My Uncle had an IBM typewriter that did stuff like that, it was an
> IBM...it
> was a bear to use..I do remember playing with it when I was a wee
> tot....and
> this was back in the late 50's, early 60's.  (Well, I wasn't so wee then,
> born in '49). FWIW.
>
> --
> Glenn M.
>
>
> "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
> news:4140bbd9{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > As I stated there were typewriters at that time that could do a
>> > proportional
>> > font.  They cost $20,000 in 1972 dollars.  That would be like a
>> > $100,000
>> > typewriter today.  And of course we all know that the Government is
> always
>> > on the bleeding edge of technology and National Guard offices would of
>> > course be equipped with $100,000 dollar typewriters for use in routine
>> > correspondence.
>>
>> Hard to tell on that whether they'd have access to that kind of
>> typewriter
>> or not.  I do know I was doing wordprocessing on a computer and printer
> that
>> could have printed that in 1975, but it really doesn't even look like
>> that
>> to me either, the vertical spacing is to erratic.  It definitely looks
> like
>> an offshoot of Times New Roman, but there are subtle differences.  Heck,
>> maybe this was a really old, somewhat functional machine that was handed
>> down to the guard unit as usually happens, and that would explain why
> they'd
>> have such a high end type machine.  One things for sure and that's that
> the
>> PDF is of very low quality, and the typewriter that made it wasn't likely
> to
>> be modern.
>>
>> > correspondence but couldn't afford any real Letterhead Stationery.
>>
>> That's a non-issue for me.
>>
>> > Then there is the little problem of the superscript
"th".  NOT EVEN THE
>> > $100,000 TYPEWRITER COULD DO A SUPERSCRIPT "TH"
LIKE IS IN THIS FAKE.
>>
>> Actually the high end machines did have that as an option. (and even some
> of
>> the lower ones with replaceable type elements.)
>>
>> - Bob Comer (I don't know if it's a fake or not and I really don't care,
>> I
>> have enough to not vote for Bush already.  It's an interesting mental
>> exercise to look at though. )
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
>> news:4140b769{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > As I stated there were typewriters at that time that could do a
>> > proportional
>> > font.  They cost $20,000 in 1972 dollars.  That would be like a
>> > $100,000
>> > typewriter today.  And of course we all know that the Government is
> always
>> > on the bleeding edge of technology and National Guard offices would of
>> > course be equipped with $100,000 dollar typewriters for use in routine
>> > correspondence.  No problem having $100,000 typewriters for routine
>> > correspondence but couldn't afford any real Letterhead Stationery.
> Yeah
>> > Riggghhhhttt.
>> >
>> > Then there is the little problem of the superscript
"th".  NOT EVEN THE
>> > $100,000 TYPEWRITER COULD DO A SUPERSCRIPT "TH"
LIKE IS IN THIS FAKE.
> Or
>> > course Microsoft Word automatically creates the superscript
"th", and
>> > would
>> > be an easy mistake for the obviously not to bright forger to overlook.
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > "Robert Comer"
 wrote in message
>> > news:4140b591$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> You're the first I've heard say that, but no matter.  The
font on that
>> > page
>> >> certainly looks like it didn't come from a modern printer either...
>> >>
>> >> btw, the first proportional font typewriter was made by
IBM in *1944*.
>> >>
>> >> - Bob Comer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>> >> news:4140b0d8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> >> Even a cursory examination of the document which can be found here
>> >> http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf shows its FAKE.
>> >>
>> >> The document is from 1972, and in 1972 people and the
National Guard
> used
>> >> TYPEWRITERS.  Typewriters used a fixed pitch courier
font.  This FAKED
>> >> document is in a PROPORTIONAL font that only typewriters
costing more
>> >> than
>> >> $20,000 1972 dollars could imitate, and NO TYPEWRITER (not even a
> $20,000
>> >> one) could create the superscript "th" that is
in this FAKED document.
>> >> Microsoft Word of course uses proportional fonts and automatically
>> >> creates
>> >> the superscript "th" found in this FAKED document.
>> >>
>> >> CBS and the democraps show their slime again.  This could
backfire on
>> > Kerry
>> >> with such an obviously faked document.
>> >>
>> >> There are problems with the signature as well that makes
experts think
>> >> the
>> >> signature is a cut a paste job of a signature from
another document.
>> >>
>> >> Gary
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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