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from: Ellen K.
date: 2007-01-06 21:36:42
subject: Re: In U.S., fear and distrust of Muslims runs deep

From: Ellen K. 

Hezbollah is what?

Also there are apparently more divisions than just Sunni and Shiite.  I
have a Pakistani Muslim friend who is very devout who is very
anti-Saudi/Wahhabi.



On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:00:14 +0000, Ad
 wrote in message
:

>Ellen K. wrote:
>> Pakistan.  Apparently Lebanon.
>>
>
>Pakistan is shiite? Lebanon???  Did the entire Lebanese civil war pass
>you by?
>
>Adam
>
>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:39:12 +0000, Adam
>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge"> wrote in
>> message :
>>
>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>> How many Shiite Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>>>
>>> Chuckle. So you ask a question assuming what turns out to be
false & now
>>> you try & refine your question.
>>>
>>> OK So Ellen how many Shiite Muslim countries are there?
>>>
>>> 1? Iran?
>>>
>>> Gee so let's ask this another way, How many Jewish countries outlaw
>>> Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:50:49 +0000, Adam
>>>> <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the
field.near the bridge"> wrote in
>>>> message :
>>>>
>>>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>>> Kahane Chai is one organization.  It is outlawed
by the state of Israel.
>>>>>> There are hundreds if not thousands of other
Jewish organizations who
>>>>>> are on record as opposing its activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which Muslim countries outlaw Hamas or Hezbollah?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Oh lots. Saudi for one.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the Absolute sunni monarchies but esp the Saudi.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wave a hezbollah flag there & see how quickly the
police turn up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>
>>>>>> How many Muslim organizations are on record as
opposing their
>>>>>> activities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:57:34 +0000, Ad
>>>>>> 
wrote in message
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ellen K. wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't know who all the other groups
are/were, but "Anglo" and
>>>>>>>> "Christian" are not synonymous. 
The Baader Meinhof group were not
>>>>>>>> Christians and would probably be insulted
if you called them
Christians,
>>>>>>>> in view of Marx' statement that religion
is the opiate of the masses.
>>>>>>>> I'm not familiar enough with the IRA to
know whether they consider
>>>>>>>> themselves Christians, but everything I
ever read about them indicated
>>>>>>>> they were Irish nationalists as opposed to
e.g. agitating for the
>>>>>>>> practice of Catholicism over Protestantism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is a fact that the Islamic terrorists
claim their acts are
religious
>>>>>>>> in nature.  It is also a fact that Islamic
clerics make statements
>>>>>>>> supporting the terrorist acts, and are
rarely -- if ever --
contradicted
>>>>>>>> by other Islamic clerics.  These two facts
are what make the public
>>>>>>>> believe Islam is waging war on the
non-Islamic world, particularly
when
>>>>>>>> some of the statements explicitly so state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So then one could wonder about Zionists who
are equally claiming a
>>>>>>> religious justification for their acts of
violence. Meir Kahane was a
>>>>>>> Rabbi & Kahane Chai is classified as a
Terrorist organization.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or as usual is that somehow "different" ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> & then there is the BJP/RSS in India which
has repeatedly called for &
>>>>>>> achieved religious based massacres such as in Gujarat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Different again I suppose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> People are people & all religions &
people's have their nutty violent
wing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 09:51:51 +0000, Adam
>>>>>>>>
<""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote in
>>>>>>>> message :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does that include the IRA, UDA, UFF,
IPLO, INLA, ETA, Baader Meinhof,
>>>>>>>>> Red Brigades etc?
>>

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