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to: Mark
from: John Cuccia
date: 2006-12-30 23:50:14
subject: Re: ice island

From: John Cuccia 

On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:27:26 -0500, "Mark"
 wrote:

>
>"John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>news:ut1dp2thj7gj9l4t9kt6m1fc7p10371p9i{at}4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 23:54:51 -0500, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>
>>>Talk to your representative on that count John, they overwhelmingly
>>>authorized the Iraq war, on the basis of many (at least 17 as I recall)
>>>counts -- all but one of which are handily ignored these days.
>>
>> A nice bit of revisionism there.  The warmongers *overwhelmingly*
>> emphasized the fact that Saddam had WMDs (and that we knew exactly
>> where they were), that Saddam had links to bin Laden and AQ, and that
>> Iraq proposed a grave and gathering threat to the United States.  All
>> three of those propositions have been proven wrong by events.
>
>Speaking of revisionist!

Now you're just being silly.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/08/20020826.html
Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of
mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our
friends, against our allies, and against us.
 -- Dick Cheney, 8/8/2006

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/t03302003_t0330sdabcsteph.html
We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and
east, west, south and north somewhat.
 -- Donald Rumsfeld, 3/3/2003

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50679-2004Jun17.html
"The reason I keep insisting that there was a relationship between
Iraq and Saddam and al Qaeda: because there was a relationship between Iraq
and al Qaeda," Bush said after a Cabinet meeting.
-- George W Bush, 6/17/2004

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html
The history, the logic, and the facts lead to one conclusion: Saddam
Hussein's regime is a grave and gathering danger.
 -- George W Bush, 9/12/2002


>> The other primary reason for the overthrow was the utopian neocon
>> vision of Iraq as a democratic ally in the Mid-East, a vision that
>> could only have been conceived by those ignorant of the history of the
>> region.  That was a pipe dream too.
>
>Eh, I don't recall anyone saying that then.

Well no wonder you supported the war.  You have no idea what's really happening.

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