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to: John Beamish
from: Robert Comer
date: 2004-09-10 21:39:32
subject: Re: Re:Bush military records show the same superscript - d

From: "Robert Comer" 

> My assessment:  this document was prepared on a typewriter.  As to the
> date
> it was prepared ... I have no idea if it was the 20th or the 21st century.

I'd say the same except I'd say it's a pretty old typewriter given the
inconsistent letter placement -- how old I'm not even going to try and
guess -- it's been a long time since I've seen type that bad so I don't
remember.

Without the originals it may be tough for anyone to prove anything.

- Bob Comer


"John Beamish"  wrote in
message news:41425452{at}w3.nls.net...
> The superscript is interesting but it's the non-superscripts that, to me,
> are more interesting.
>
> The document here:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/BushGuardmay4.pdf
>
> shows (1st line) "111th Fighter" with no superscript
> and shows (5th line) "MEMORANDUM FOR 1st" with no superscript
> and shows (10th line) "111th F.I.S. administrative officer" with a
> superscript.
>
> So ... since Word generates a superscript in all cases but this document
> shows a superscript in only one case, I have to question the statements
> that
> the document was created in Word since it is internally inconsistent.  If
> I
> were fabricating the document, I'd certainly make certain it was
> internally
> consistent with superscripts.
>
> So ... most superscripts have been eliminated but one made it through.
>
> Since it isn't consistent, it could have been created by a typist who used
> a
> superscript key occasionally but not always.  For many (most?) typists,
> the
> letters are well-known and their positions are familiar but the special
> keys
> (heck, even the numbers) aren't always known.
>
> My old SCM had a "1/2" - "1/4" key and I used it
inconsistently.  (I don't
> recall it having a "th" key.)
>
> My assessment:  this document was prepared on a typewriter.  As to the
> date
> it was prepared ... I have no idea if it was the 20th or the 21st century.
>
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:41423fad{at}w3.nls.net...
>> > I don't think this looks good for CBS and I'd say the same if the
> material
>> > had come from the Swifties.  The PDF document just looks too freaking
>> > weird to come off a 1970s typewriter.  Type it in MS Word and you've
>> > got
> a
>> > dead ringer - automatic th superscripts, curly quotes, KERNING, and
>> > 13-point vertical spacing.  I think anyone with any objectivity would
> have
>> > to be suspicious.
>>
>> Vertical spacing does not match what a current printer would do, there's
> too
>> much variability.
>>
>> - Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Wiltshire"  wrote in message
>> news:opsd4vjpegeipai0{at}news.barkto.com...
>> > On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:54:17 -0400, Rich Gauszka

>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Well were I CBS I'd submit the documents and other evidence to an
>> >> valid
>> >> outside source for verification - no neither the Democratic or
> Republican
>> >> commitees qualify. Unfortunately it looks like they are going to be
> hard
>> >> headed about this 
>> >>
>> >>
>> > A man who appreciates the subjunctive!
>> >
>> > I don't think this looks good for CBS and I'd say the same if the
> material
>> > had come from the Swifties.  The PDF document just looks too freaking
>> > weird to come off a 1970s typewriter.  Type it in MS Word and you've
>> > got
> a
>> > dead ringer - automatic th superscripts, curly quotes, KERNING, and
>> > 13-point vertical spacing.  I think anyone with any objectivity would
> have
>> > to be suspicious.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Gary Wiltshire
>>
>>
>
>

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