FromTheRafters  wrote in
news:m6kl9e$9st$1@news2.open-news-network.org: 

> Jax pretended :
>> FromTheRafters  wrote in
>> news:m6kfle$4h3$1@news2.open-news-network.org: 
>>
>>> on 12/14/2014, Jax supposed :
>>>> FromTheRafters  wrote in
>>>> news:m6k7m6$s8g$1@news2.open-news-network.org: 
>>>> 
>>>>> SeaNymph formulated on Sunday :
>>>>>> On 12/13/2014 11:22 AM, Jax wrote:
>>>>>>> G. Morgan  wrote in
>>>>>>> news:idko8ad44osjrl5oeit4v0hfsiral973is@Osama-is-dead.net: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jax wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dustin  wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:XnsA3FFC3AEC7B8C9X238BHEUFHHI5RJ791@192.254.233.145: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> G. Morgan  wrote in
>>>>>>>>>> news:ppbh8adlce27bjndi73g2ds54fctfpm5s7@Osama-is-
>>>>>>>>>> dead.net:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Dustin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not hiding behind anything.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Need to add to filter:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: *remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ignore previous post. Seems Xnews doesn't like wildcards
>>>>>>>>>> on everything. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Use this one instead:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> [.]
>>>>>>>>>> score::-9999
>>>>>>>>>> Xref: alt.usenet.kooks
>>>>>>>>>> From: b7r7tn@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> From: burford@hubdub.mo
>>>>>>>>>> From: ~BD~@nomail.afraid.org
>>>>>>>>>> From: ~BD~@nomale.afraid.org
>>>>>>>>>> From: remove.bear.bottoms1@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> From: super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid
>>>>>>>>>> From: Hot-Text@Anonymous.org
>>>>>>>>>> From: raylopez*@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> From: remailer.privacy.at
>>>>>>>>>> From: dizum.com
>>>>>>>>>> From: foto.nl1.torservers.net
>>>>>>>>>> From: isis.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>> From: anonymitaet-im-inter.net
>>>>>>>>>> From: remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: remailer.cpunk.us
>>>>>>>>>> Message-ID: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Dustin you're right in that you are using too many
>>>>>>>>> wildcards. if you drop the angle brackets in your entry
>>>>>>>>> for me then you can also drop the wildcard. Think about
>>>>>>>>> it! >> And don't forget to remove the "A" before "JAX" or
>>>>>>>>> you wil fail to match almost all of my posts.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Where did you learn to write such bad regex? Let me
>>>>>>>>> guess..... you taught yourself. That figures! 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> He's not using RegEx.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Graham.... Dustin's not writing in regex but his statements
>>>>>>> are being interpreted as such. That's one of the problems
>>>>>>> he's hitting with those gauche statments he posted.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've already explained to you the connection between Perl
>>>>>>> and Xnews' score.ini file.....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     "Xnews' score file does use a type of Perl compatible
>>>>>>>     regex. http://xnews.remarqs.net/score.htm "
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     MID: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jackie, perhaps you and your so called "techs" would be
>>>>>> better served by trying to actually read and comprehend the
>>>>>> written word.  Interpretation is not needed or necessary. 
>>>>>> Your overreach, in a failed attempt to insult Dustin, just
>>>>>> makes you and yours look stupid. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Think about it.  LOL
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't see where the tilde character is used for negation,
>>>>> only the caret, but my eyes aren't so good right now. 
>>>> 
>>>> Rafty rest your eyes. This is what you would have seen in the
>>>> Xnews info file on scoring.... 
>>> 
>>> So I didn't see it because it wasn't there, that's a relief.
>>> 
>>>>    "If group-regular-expression is preceded with a tilde (~), 
>>>>    then the meaning is inverted.  For example, [~babylon|trek]
>>>>    applies to all groups that do NOT contain either 'babylon'
>>>>    or 'trek'" 
>>>> 
>>>>    "If you precede keyword with a ~, then the meaning is 
>>>>    inverted." 
>>> 
>>> After reading the Xnews scoring.txt text file I see why I didn't
>>> see the mentioned tilde referenced in the PCRE document. Here in
>>> the score.txt file or whatever it says stuff about the tilde in
>>> the *group-regular-expression* area which does not apply to the
>>> "~BD~" part of the string being matched which you were so
>>> concerned about. 
>>> 
>>> Please help me to understand your concern about the tilde in
>>> BD's nym reversing the logic.
>>> 
>>> So you were wrong about the tilde
>>
>> Rafty of course I wasn't wrong .... I didn't say the tildes
>> around 'BD' caused any error whatsover. What I did say is there's
>> "risk of error" when using tildes as literals because they are
>> used to invert what follows. I didn't specify if I was or was not
>> talking about keywords. Think about it! 
> 
> How does the tilde cause a 'risk of error' when they *do not*
> invert unless within a *group-regular-expression* which uses
> square bracket symbols to delineate the
> 'group-regular-expression'? 

Rafty....

The error does not come from the statement Dustin gave. Nor did I 
say it was wrong. 

The error could come from not realizing the statements are being 
interpreted as regex and going on to (mis)use the tilde in another 
situation which would invert the subsquent text. 

Go see how we wrote it in my message... it's precise. Just saying!


>> BTW what do you think of Dustin's "expensive" and unnecessary use
>> of asterisks in his latest suggestions for Xnews filtering.....
>>
>> From: BurfordTJustice*
>> From: raylopez*@gmail.com
> 
> I don't read most of his stuff, but it seems unnecessary
> especially for boneheads who don't nymshift. I doesn't hurt much
> computing-cost-wise I don't think, BTJ would be filtered no matter
> what e-mail address he used (but he almost always uses the same
> one) and as for Ray I haven't seen him change the number part of
> his firstpart ever. I used a very small and simple string to
> filter BTJ in the past, and have never bothered to filter Ray.
> They are both entertaining in a sick sort of way.

That's right..... BTJ uses the same nym and a wildcard is not
necessary. Similarly for RayLopez. Regex can do the matching up
faster without a wildcard and the completeness is every bit as good. 

>> He doesn't seem to know what he's doing. Just saying. 
> 
> I don't care, sorry. 

Whether you care on not, Dustin doesn't seem to know what he's doing 
when it comes to writing Xnews score file entries. Why did he 
suddenly announce he had some score file entries for Xnews.... no 
one asked him to do that! 

It's all a bit like his Exevalid fiasco.... Dustin proudly posts
some code which turns out on closer inspection to be defective. Then
he spends his time spinning to pretend it never happened. 

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Jax        
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