-=> Mocking Kuno to Kurt <=-
  (Mock, mOck, moCk, mocK)
 KW> actually, as i recall sarah gordon's study of computer virus writers
 KW> showed them to be for the most part just adolescent kids with a lot of
 KW> computer knowledge... (the same mentality as those kids who might commit
 KW> a some petty theft, or vandalize property with spray paint)...
 KW> I don't agree with this. There is a large group of virus authors who
 KW> don't release their virussen in the wild, but instead release the
 KW> sourcecode in virus magazines.
yes, in essense, they're letting other people spread their viruses for
them because they are smart enough to know that doing it themselves is
of questionable legal integrity and could get them in a mess of
trouble...
 KW> These people are not of the mentality
 KW> described above,
actually, those people you site were also part of sarah gordon's
study... they are of a very similar mentality, instead of being
explicitly present when the dirty work is being done, they put the
materials for the dirty work in a place where they know that it will get
into the hands of someone who will actually perform their dirty work for
them...
sorta like hiring someone at zero cost to go and perform the vandalism
for you... (made possible because of all the posers and wannabes in the
vx crowd)...
 KW> as they find satisfaction in defeating the operating
 KW> system or anti-virus software, NOT in harming others or their
 KW> property.
utterly false... if they found complete satisfaction in simply defeating
an anti-virus product, they'd never need to release their virus or
source code at all, they could just keep the virus on their computer
where no one can see it and scan it with progressively newer and newer
scanners until eventually one of them picks it up in heuristics mode...
they release the viruses, that means they derive something from the
spreading of potentially dangerous materials... they are not completely
satified by simply defeating an av product...
 KW> Their virusses do get into the wild however,.. kids who are
 KW> too lazy to write or learn to write virusses themselves will grab the
 KW> virus sourcecode from a virus magazine and compile and spread it,.. the
 KW> slightly less lazy kids might even insert a payload themselves. These
 KW> virus spreaders are the real vandals.
they are both vandals... the only difference is that the ones who
release their viruses in magazines have managed to find a way to
vandalize while being even further separated from the vandalization than
they would have been if they had spread infected executables
themselves...
furthermore, they know that it's more efficient to spread the code to
all the little wannabes since the collective wannabes will have access
to a greater number of systems than the virus writer would by
him/herself....
 KW> Then again, a certain amount of virus authors definitly will spread
 KW> their own virusses..
 
yes, because they're stupid..
 KW> no viruses destroy hardware,
 KW> Not intentionally anyway :)
 
no known virus has ever destroyed hardware, intentionally or
otherwise...
 KW> all viruses alter software
 KW> Not true, companion virusses don't.
 
companion viruses alter software data objects (the fat), they also alter
the execution sequence of your programs...
 KW>  ! Origin: Klik uit. (2:2801/201.9)
it's ever so confusing quoting someone with the same initials as me..
... incest... a game the whole family can play...
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