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Earle Jones wrote: > "Computers cannot begin to handle language"? > > You are woefully out of date. There has been a lot of research over > the past 20 or 30 years on natural language understanding. You > should read up. Here are a few suggestions: > > http://wesnerm.blogs.com/net_undocumented/2004/06/natural_languag.htm > l > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805303340/104-7523691- > 9994340?v=glance > > http://mbi.dkfz-heidelberg.de/helios/doc/nlp/Baud93b.html None of these references indicates that the problem of language understanding has been solved. If it had, there would not just be books about it, there would be machines that we can talk to just as we talk to each other; there are no such machines. > These are three (of thousands) of sites that result when you Google > ["language understanding" computer] Doesn't mean a thing. > I have seen demonstrations of laboratory systems that first, > recognize spoken speech, then parse the sentences and extract > meaning. The most successful are 'restricted domain' query systems. > In other words, they are not claimed to work with all speech and all > language. In other words, systems that attempt real-world understanding are failures. What works in a limited domain invariably fails when extended to the real world. That is the history of AI in a sentence. To say an AI system works only in a "restricted domain" is to say that it fails as an implemetation of human competency. ie "Computers cannot begin to handle language" as the previous poster said. Many of the most important concepts in language derive from our consciousness and selfhood, our relations with each other and our pre-verbal understanding of the world. Machines do not have consciousness, selfhood, interpersonal relations or an a priori understanding of the world. That is why they cannot understand what we say. > For example there is a medical data base for cardiology and > cardiologists. If you ask, "How's the weather in Honolulu?" you are > not likely to be understood. > > If what you are saying is that you can think up clever sentences > that will fool the system, you are right. > > earle > * > --- þ RIMEGate(tm)/RGXPost V1.14 at BBSWORLD * Info{at}bbsworld.com --- * RIMEGate(tm)V10.2áÿ* RelayNet(tm) NNTP Gateway * MoonDog BBS * RgateImp.MoonDog.BBS at 7/20/04 5:07:59 PM* Origin: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn,NY, 718 692-2498, 1:278/230 (1:278/230) SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 @PATH: 278/230 10/345 106/1 2000 633/267 |
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