From: Ellen K. 

I don't like medication but after ending up in the ER with 233/158,
reluctantly agreed to lisinopril, but not the "water pill" the
doctor also wanted to prescribe.  I am no longer young and also not thin,
but being that the bp problems started when work stress ratcheted up I feel
sure it is the work stress.  I dearly wish I had a magic wand I could wave
that would enable me to retire but I can't afford to yet. Thankfully I have
managed to lose about 10 lbs but that is still a long way from thin.

I eat one banana per day and a ton of veggies.  Because I need to get my
triglycerides down I'm not allowed more than 3 fruits per day so I don't
want to use two of them on bananas.  (Actually I think cantaloupe might
have more potassium than bananas, not sure though.)  If a meal includes
something processed I will use a salt substitute on the part I make myself
to even it out, but I'm not supposed to use salt substitute exclusively on
this medication.

Does the aspirin do something for blood pressure?  I'm really not clear on
that.  I do eat raw garlic almost every day.



On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 16:03:11 -0500, "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message :

>I was on some medication to start but I found that the RESPeRATE did as good
>a job as the medication in keeping the BP down so I threw away the Caduet as
>I'd like to stay away from drugs if possible. My bp problems are more
>age/weight related. I make a decent attempt to eliminate salt but I do lapse
>occasionally ( I have an addiction to potato chips ) so I'm not entirely a
>good role model in a salt free diet. As a daily bp lowering diet I also do
>an aspirin and  2 bananas
>
>As to stress the biggest reduction that I've noticed has been due to my
>being  fortunate enough to have retired so I doubt I can help there.  About
>3 months after I retired I really finally noticed the lask of stress that
>was job related
>
>As you, I do feel better after longer sessions with the RESPeRATE. I start
>out with the 15 minute default , increase it to 30 ( another 3 - 5 minute
>sessions ) and might increase it further depending on how well I'm doing and
>how much time I have.  On some rare occasionions (in an hour session)  I've
>hovered around the 2.5 bpm rate at the end and really felt great/relaxed
>after completion.
>
>
>
>
>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>news:ugj2q2hvpe1srnstt5ts3uejb73be5d069{at}4ax.com...
>> Do you do a 30-minute session, or two shorter ones?   I did already
>> lengthen the default session from 15 minutes to 20, and honestly I think
>> that for me those last five minutes might be the most beneficial, I
>> really get into a good place.
>>
>> Regarding the sensor, I figured out that placing it is easier if I first
>> put my hand on my upper abdomen to see where the greatest breathing
>> movement occurs, then put the sensor there.
>>
>> I am starting around 8 and ending up around 5, this is after I guess
>> about 3 weeks of use.
>>
>> Is your bp stress-related?  If so, do you have any helpful hints for not
>> getting aggravated?
>>
>> Are you on a low-salt diet?  Any good tricks to share on that?
>>
>> Are you also on medication?  If so what and how is it working for you?
>>
>> On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 09:46:58 -0500, "Rich Gauszka"

>> wrote in message :
>>
>>>I've been using a RESPeRATE for a little over a year now ( at least 30
>>>minutes a day ) and , as you do, find it beneficial and quite relaxing
>>>after
>>>a session. I still have little trouble at times getting the breath sensor
>>>placed right though.   After using it regularly, now  I usually start at
>>>about 5 breaths a minute and finish somewhere in the low to mid 3 range.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Ellen K."  wrote in message
>>>news:ic21q2tb2662eqn6bgs95g78688f0ftica{at}4ax.com...
>>>> Unless the person has high triglycerides.  People with high
>>>> triglycerides are advised to stay away from alcohol.
>>>>
>>>> My take on why the wine works is that it relaxes a person,
so it would
>>>> help people whose high blood pressure is stress-related.
>>>>
>>>> I recently developed high blood pressure which is definitely
>>>> stress-related, but my triglycerides are too high, so the
wine cure is
>>>> out, at least for now.
>>>>
>>>> I did however buy a "RESPeRATE" and am finding
it very beneficial... it
>>>> is clinically proven to reduce blood pressure if used
regularly for I
>>>> think 6 to 8 weeks.  It uses music to guide your respiration rate to
>>>> under 10 per minute; spending at least 40 minutes per week in the
>>>> therapeutic breathing zone for 6 to 8 weeks reduces blood
pressure by
>>>> relaxing the small muscles surrounding the blood vessels.  Then you
>>>> maintain it by continuing to use it three times a week.  I feel very
>>>> good at the end of a session, it is a better relaxation
than a glass of
>>>> wine actually.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007 11:58:08 -0500, "Rich Gauszka"
>>>>  wrote in message
:
>>>>
>>>>>'When the scientists linked alcohol use and heart
problems, they found
>>>>>though that the chances of suffering a heart attack
were lower among men
>>>>>who
>>>>>consumed one or two drinks a day.'
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_a
rticle_id=425881&in_page_id=1774
>>>>>
>>>>>Men with high blood pressure can cut their risk of
heart attacks by
>>>>>indulging in a daily tipple, say scientists.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the UK, around 16 million people - more than one in
four - have high
>>>>>blood pressure, or hypertension.
>>>>>
>>>>>Traditionally doctors advise sufferers to increase their activity
>>>>>levels,
>>>>>cut salt consumption and eat fewer high fat foods to reduce the
>>>>>likelihood
>>>>>of suffering a heart attack, stroke or kidney damage.
>>>>>
>>>>>Now a new study has suggested they should also
recommend patients have a
>>>>>daily drink.
>>>>>
>>>>>Researchers found men with high blood pressure had a
lower risk of heart
>>>>>attack if they had one or two alcoholic drinks, such as
a couple of
>>>>>glasses
>>>>>of wine, each day.
>>>>>
>>>>>The discovery adds to evidence of how alcohol in
moderation can be good
>>>>>for
>>>>>the health.
>>>>>
>>>>>Other studies have shown a daily drink can help boost levels of
>>>>>protective
>>>>>cholesterol in the blood, cut the risk of heart attacks
and may even
>>>>>lead
>>>>>to
>>>>>a longer life.
>>>>>
>>>>>The research however is the first to look at whether
similar benefits
>>>>>are
>>>>>seen in people with high blood pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>>The study was led by Joline Beulens of Wageningen
University in the
>>>>>Netherlands who at the time was a visiting scholar at
Harvard School of
>>>>>Public Health.
>>>>>
>>>>>Miss Beulens used data on 11,711 men with high blood
pressure who were
>>>>>part
>>>>>of a major study involving those working in the health
profession.
>>>>>
>>>>>Every four years participants filled out a
questionnaire including
>>>>>details
>>>>>of how often they drank beer, red wine, white wine and spirits.
>>>>>
>>>>>The research team also looked at how many suffered
heart attacks, heart
>>>>>disease and strokes between 1986 and 2002.
>>>>>
>>>>>During this time a total of 653 heart attacks occurred
of which 279 were
>>>>>fatal.
>>>>>
>>>>>When the scientists linked alcohol use and heart
problems, they found
>>>>>though
>>>>>that the chances of suffering a heart attack were lower
among men who
>>>>>consumed one or two drinks a day.
>>>>>
>>>>>A drink was defined as being a glass of wine or a single shot of
>>>>>spirits.
>>>>>Miss Beulens said: "This was the first study to
our knowledge that
>>>>>examined
>>>>>the risk of heart attacks among men with high blood
pressure who drank
>>>>>moderately.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Men diagnosed with hypertension probably get a
lot of advice on how to
>>>>>change their lifestyle, physical activity and diet.
>>>>>
>>>>>"This study indicates that if they drink alcohol
in moderation they may
>>>>>not
>>>>>need to change their drinking habits."
>>>>>
>>>>>However she urged men not to have three drinks a day,
as this increases
>>>>>their blood pressure and risk of an attack.
>>>>>
>>>>>"Our findings are not a license for men with hypertension to
>>>>>overindulge,"
>>>>>she said.
>>>>>
>>>>>Because the study only looked at men the authors said
it is impossible
>>>>>to
>>>>>say whether or not the findings also apply to women.
>>>>>
>>>>>Fellow researcher Kenneth Mukaml, an associate
professor at Harvard
>>>>>Medical
>>>>>School, said people with high blood pressure should discuss their
>>>>>alcohol
>>>>>intake with their doctor.
>>>>>
>>>>>"However our results suggest that men with high
blood pressure seem to
>>>>>have
>>>>>the same lower risk associated with moderate drinking
that other men
>>>>>do,"
>>>>>he
>>>>>said.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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