From: "John Beamish" 

Toronto ... population 2.5 million
http://www.toronto.ca/toronto_facts/diversity.htm

Homicides ..... 1998-2002:  56, 49, 61, 61, 60 By firearms ... 1998-2002: 
13, 18, 26, 33, 28 http://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/statistics.php

Some self-indulgent comparisons
http://www.toronto.ca/quality_of_life/safety.htm
(Read the Note at the end; homicides includes first and second degree
murder as well as manslaughter.)


If you do some of your own searching, you may see references to Toronto,
Metro Toronto and GTA (Greater Toronto Area).

A few years ago:  Toronto was a city.  The city was in the centre of an arc
of city/boroughs and the city-plus-arc was called Metro Toronto.  A few
years ago, that arc of city/boroughs ws renamed from Metro Toronto to
Toronto (with a variety of service amalgamations).

Today: Toronto is what used to be Metro Toronto and the GTA (Greater
Toronto Area) is now Toronto and, you guessed it, an arc of surrounding
city/boroughs (actually, I think they're all cities).

So you have to be careful when looking at the nomenclature.


On Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:43:10 -0500, Geo.  wrote:

> "John Beamish"  wrote in message
> news:op.tlt9wfdbm6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
>> No ... gun laws do affect crime:  We have much, much more stringent gun
>> laws than you have; we have 1/3 the number of murders that you have.
>
> 1/3 the murder rate we have out here in Middlefield or 1/3 the murder
> rate they have in the most densely populated areas of the US? (I believe
> that answer will account for the difference)
>
> Geo.

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