++> On Feb. 3/98 Keith Knapp wrote to David Martorana
 ++> SUBJECT: "IMMENSE ABSURDITIES"
 
 DM> DM>> The question has enormous meaning as the "something" option is
 DM> DM>> tricky once beyond religion........... ...that "something is",
 DM> DM>  IS the more absurd .
 
 DM> DB> I've been fooling with the idea of complete Chaos, and find
 DM> DB> that it supplies the usual idea of no-thing, except that the
 DM> DB> former is capable of generating the universe out of nothing.
 
 DM>> I tend to believe that both our conceptual and vocabulary
 DM>> limits are somewhat against us. We are probably dealing with
 DM>> elements of existence that are (for now) a bit beyond what
 DM>> the human mind can shape into meaning.
 
 KK> I agree.  Gambling has been described as a tax on people who
 KK> cannot understand statistics.  The H. sap. brain seems to
 KK> compulsively find order, even in places where there is no order.
 KK> It seems to be incapable of grasping situations where there is
 KK> no order.
 
     Not sure how you here apply "gambling" in our reach to address
     about in a  "what is"?
 
 DM> DB> Both 'nothing' and 'chaos' lack any means of discerning any
 DM> DB> sort of system or separation between 'this' and 'that'.
 
 DM>     "nothing" and "chaos" may NOT lack discernment. We might
 DM>      entertain the notion that there are other "LOGICS", instead
 DM>      of trying to beat to death that little we know. Likely that
 DM>      WE (a we bit arrogant) are the element lacking discernment!
 DM>      I feel that our being mired in "old thinking" limits what we
 DM>      might have the capability to yet know! .......just a private
 DM>      wager-ish notion.
 
 KK> Keep in mind that the human brain seems to be wired to find pattern
 KK> and meaning, and has a powerful emotional need to do so.  What will
 KK> it find when the only 'patterns' are random?
 
     It would likely keep tuning the dial till a recognition hit!
     I believe it some more complex in design than *just* patterns
     or not patterns or even other-ish alien of patterns. The human
     mind is wired to gender life (often in very complex-to-unreasonable
     patterns of its own).  "Pattern recognition" is a process; and
     "emotional need", a guidance-goad to keep the mission in sync.
     To effect this gender/husbandry function, we are allowed some
     necessary freedoms in "consciousness" which is essentially a
     working dimension. There would likely be an unlimited number of
     such working dimensions creatable to need. Though the consciousness
     dimension seems very awesome-pervasive-broad to us, that is only
     because we are not privy to  any others. Such others would only
     come into a working grasp if needed for mission    .......or by
     accident? 
 
     ......such are SOME extra-ish views nearly clear & reasonable
     to me (far as they go)....
 
                  *            ((--, @@  ... Dave
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