From: "Gary Britt" 


"Geo."  wrote in message
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> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
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> We aren't leading the talks,

Yes we are.  We organized them and without our pushing them they wouldn't
be happening.  We are the leader of the talks.

> And if we don't wake up soon and realize
> just how much economic power china is going to be weilding in a few years
we
> are going to end up paying for this ignorance bigtime.

I agree China is going to have big power and influence someday.  China's
economic growth isn't related to terrorism or NK nukes however.

> No it's not because the fuck you came first.

You are confusing our refusal to let NK bend us over a bar stool with
telling them fuck you.  Standing up for ourselves is standing up for
ourselves.  Not laying down is not telling someone to fuck off, its just
not laying down.

I don't know what leverage we had, but Clinton sure never found any.  They
were giving Clinton the finger while building their nukes.

>
> > Those are hardly the only difference.  In 1993, Clinton was President,
and
> > he would have been more concerned about getting laid than getting even.
>
> It's not about getting even

When you're attacked its about getting even and then some more just for good measure.

> Clinton primed the economic pump

Clinton's didn't do shit George.  He inherited an economy that was
improving, and he did nothing to prevent the dot com bubble of false budget
surplus projections.  All those Clinton budget surpluses were merely the
result of the false dot com bubble.  An economy as phony and of as little
substance as Clinton himself.

> he did more to strengthen our
> position than anyone in recent times.

Maybe, but a strong sexual position isn't what the country had in mind for
our presidents.

> There is a HUGE change coming in the
> economic landscape with china coming online and if we don't play it right
it's
> going to do more damage to the US than you could ever imagine.

I can imagine quite a lot.  I don't disagree with China's economy come on
will be BOTH a challenge AND an OPPORTUNITY for us.  The USA
entrepreneurial abilities will likely turn it into an opportunity.

>
> > Lose 1 Million jobs and over 100 Billion dollars out of the economy, and
> > facing the threat of 100,000 plus dead, 5 Million jobs lost and 500
Billion
> > plus cost to the economy and reasonable efforts to prevent that are
> > over-reacting to you.  I'll take that kind of over-reacting every day
and
> > twice on Sundays.
>
> To get what?

To get our safety and the avoidance of the bad things above.


> while
> this giant sucking sound from china empties our manufacturing pockets and
> increases energy and raw material costs sending us into a major bout of
> inflation?

It might play out that as China becomes a manufacturing economy and we
become more of a service economy that we will be much more insulated from
the affects of inflationary raw goods prices than other countries.

China is coming that's for sure.  We can't stop it and shouldn't try.  We
need to be a trading partner and make it an opportunity.  I agree with all
these things.  These things aren't related however to us protecting our
citizens and economy from Islamofacists.

Gary

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