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 >      Using "civilization" in this context, Troy's comment may
 > well be accurate.  Using it the context of an ongoing process,
 > that depends on their ability to not destroy themselves - or be
 > destroyed by some natural catastrophy.
 >      Does any of this make sense, or are my meds et al making
 > hash of my communications skills as well?
You're doing just fine, Michael.
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