Name And Address Supplied wrote:-

> > JE:-
> > The BIG issue remains: Hamilton's rule cannot
> > discriminate between just a _phoney_ altruistic gene:
> > a gene that provides a relative loss, but also an
> > absolute _gain_ for the actor, and a _real_ altruistic 
> > gene: a gene that provides an absolute loss for the
> > actor. Hamilton's measure is no better than
> > the fraudulent accounting that bankrupted Enron
> > where debits became credits. Hamilton cannot tell
> > a fitness debit (an absolute loss) from a fitness credit 
> > (an absolute gain)! NAS has yet to respond to any of 
> > these BASIC charges.

> NAS:-
> Because you are unintelligible. Give me a worked example, without
> short cuts, and it might be a little clearer to us as to what you are
> up to.

Here is the example you requested. It
is unambiguous and totally "intelligible"
but I suspect you will never acknowledge 
it as such:
--------------quote----------------------

1) 22/01/2004:

JE:-
What is the difference between
a reduced positive c and a negative c?
If c was an abolute measure of fitness
then yes, a real difference exists. However
c is only a relative fitness cost and not
an absolute fitness cost, so what is the
difference?

BOH:-

As far as the rule is concerned, none.

----------- end quote --------------------

Do you agree or disagree with Dr O'Hara's
answer in the quote (above)? 


> > JE:-
> > It appears to me that because "Name and Address
> > Supplied" does not supply either his/her name or his/her
> > address (!) he/she is willing to involve himself/herself
> > in a public discussion of this issue.

> NAS:-
> I do publicly involve myself in such discussion, with my name and
> address(es) freely available, and I do this in the most appropriate
> arena - the peer reviewed primary literature.

JE:-
So, sbe is not an "appropriate arena" for
NAS to identify him/her self when discussing
simple, basic issues re: evolutionary theory.
Why is NAS afraid to _publicly_ identify
his/her view of just, evolutionary theory 
_basics_? 

Regards,

John Edser
Independent Researcher

PO Box 266
Church Pt
NSW 2105
Australia

edser{at}tpg.com.au
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